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Again, it goes back to the words: backwards compatible. That is not what backwards compatible means. Backwards compatibility requires two products to work together. Here is the definition: "able to be used with an older piece of hardware or software without special adaptation or modification."...

I must have misread what you said. Here is your post: So my question was, if they have to stay within the 2014 ruleset to play a 2014 paladin, doesn't that contradict backwards compatibility? Again, if you meant mix and match abilities, then I apologize.

I agree. That is why my sentence started with "We'll have to wait and see."

It's not about picking the skill or ability individually. Sorry if that was the impression. I stated the 2014 version vs the 2024 version. Not mix and matching the two versions. Hope that clears things up.

The discussion is about backwards compatibility. If you, as DM, have to insist they use the 2014 ruleset with their paladin, then that means characters can't just "port to the new edition without missing a hitch."

We'll have to wait and see how it's worded in the PHB. I mean, I am truly curious. Saying players should listen to their videos in order to know what to use and not use seems a stretch.

Huh? To say that, wouldn't that be questioning the backwards compatibility of the 2024 rules?

That's a fair take. Probably just me not choosing my words carefully enough. I can say, in my experience, that when players are given a choice and explained which ability is more useful, therefore making it more powerful mechanically, they almost always choose the useful one. But that is just my...

I stand corrected. I did not hear them say that. Of course, that might influence some about what actually is backwards compatible.

Yeah, I agree with your call. My statement was more if your player takes the side of: WotC says it's compatible, and it's even in the core book, so why not let me use it? Of course, they know the answer, as do you, and as do I. But that discussion might be made a bit more different once you...

No, it's not. If you have read any of my comments on any of these forums, you'll know my standpoint is that classes don't need to be perfectly balanced, challenges can be made via thoughtful and knowledgeable DM, and the entire character system should be based on choices. It's not a critique...

I am not criticizing. And when I say broken, I don't mean it breaks the game, I just mean it breaks the notion that there is a power-balance between players. My prediction is just that, a prediction. (That is what a lot of these threads are about.)

I literally just gave the same example, only you switched it to food. If everyone wants chocolate, so you bring both apples and chocolate (in this case you should have just dipped the apples in a chocolate coating ;)) to the party. You know everyone will choose brownies because they have...

I am very well aware. There was, perhaps, too much low-level sarcasm in my response. I feel like this entire discussion comes down to people wanting this company to be more forthcoming, not honest. But we know, no company is going to start their sale's pitch with: "Let me tell you about our...

And what if your player insists on playing the 2014 paladin? I don't say that as in a gotchya. I say that because I can already see the bot filled threads on Reddit having this exact question: "My player insists that WotC said you could mix and match, so now he is playing the broken 2014...

Ok. Some people really wished they had been forthright with their planned obsolescence.

I am glad you agree with the other two. Now, could we talk about this one. You have been playtesting a piecemeal. You think they removed the NOVA damage. How about, within the first year of this product, we go looking for "broken builds." I bet we find more than the 2014 rules. Heck, even...

I am not saying they shouldn't have to be honest, but they do need to thread the needle when it comes to their product. No company is ever going to highlight what won't work. Instead, they pitch what will. And when others bring up a forecast of what won't work or what might go wrong, they...

Just because a person has a choice, does not mean they're really given a choice. The 1st level party can get to the golden crown by fighting this low level goblin OR they can get to the crown by fighting an ancient red dragon? The DM shrugs - "They had a choice? Just because they chose the...

If you read my post closely, you'll notice there is nuance there about the term backwards compatibility. I agree with everything you said. My point is, it might not be backwards compatible because of power and player use. Could you just port your old wheelbarrow from 1980's Monopoly on over to a...