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This is great stuff. And death through character generation--via service or aging related disease--is there!

That other playtest has energy, jumping all over the place, including backwards. ToV has style. One might make me say “wow”, but for ToV I am much more likely to think “that is cool”. Because it has style.

Oh and flex vancian casting—-echoes of mentzer basic there, except the flex part.

It’s jumpy, this way, that way, another way… but it is not yet minimal. And some of this will stick.

On the other other hand, they have dropped class groups, wildshape templates, paladin and ranger cantrips, ranged paladins,and more. This revision remains a moving target.

I sympathized with this thread title, and made a joking post about it in another one. But no matter how sad Crawford may have seemed in that one video, he was sitting on some BIG stuff. Bards picking their spell list are cunning strike were very big, and many other changes were not small. I...

I started to write this big long reply on sameiness in D&D casting--5e is the most diverse, 3e comes close, pre 3e only difference was the spellbook. But there has always been a lot of similarity. As for clerics and druids, they have always worked the same way spellwise. Slightly different...

To clarify: Yes, a rogue can do cunning strike at range, apparently with all the options (even parry). The 13th level arcane trickster can sneak attack 1 target, then use mage hand to try to disarm or trip a second target. Both can be some distance from the trickster.

A flex class with charisma, and can flex away from support. I can see a lot being done with them, though I wonder if other classes can't do those things better, if not as charismatically.

All three subclasses have a lot going on. And metal armor, or be a a druid-magician!

Overall it feels pretty good. Almost like a corner has been turned. But they still have to repair the Warlock.

New rogue strikes are something. May not be worth the the trouble for all rogue players, but they open up a lot tactical options.

Weapon mastery did replace paladin and ranger cantrips! 2024, 2024, 2024, 2024……

Force damages them. There is also the elemental monk.

Overalll really like it.

They also get a 1 minute short rest. Will they be the only ones?

More forms at higher levels. Also moon druid gets temp hp and can keep metal ac in beast form.

First three observations: “College of Beatdown” would be much better then “College of Dance”. Preserve life gives me a headache. I know how it works, and it still gives me one. Druids have entered the (Celtic) Iron Age. Chain shirt and long sword possible from level one.

Beat by two minutes. It’s there.

College town, so that makes sense (and the name is a sly allusion to that). With all its students and former military, Virginia has, at times, had a pretty good game store scene--but also a lot of fluctuations. I have been away for a while. Much competition around?