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  1. mamba

    D&D General What Are Dragonlance's Weis & Hickman, and Actor Manganiello Cooking Up?

    If you were writing a new novel or movie script with new characters, you would be correct. You aren’t however, the books were written decades ago and the characters were established decades ago in them (and the art)
  2. mamba

    D&D General What Are Dragonlance's Weis & Hickman, and Actor Manganiello Cooking Up?

    yeah, inconsistent lore, once called woodland brown, 15 or so times called fair skinned or pale, and always depicted as pale. Call that inconsistent if you want, but there still is very much a trend here, this is not an even distribution where we would have to guess what the intent was is it...
  3. mamba

    D&D General What Are Dragonlance's Weis & Hickman, and Actor Manganiello Cooking Up?

    obviously not, which leaves the other part of what you wrote, namely ‘They could cast only Japanese actors and it would as much represent the characters "identity"’
  4. mamba

    D&D General What Are Dragonlance's Weis & Hickman, and Actor Manganiello Cooking Up?

    I am stating my preference, as far as I can tell so is everyone else. I am not expecting anyone to get all riled up over this either way
  5. mamba

    D&D General What Are Dragonlance's Weis & Hickman, and Actor Manganiello Cooking Up?

    it follows the established characters, and I already said it is not that important, it is my preference however. That has nothing to do with them being white, if they were black my preference would be that they stay that. There is an established lore, I’d merely stick with it over trying to make...
  6. mamba

    D&D General What Are Dragonlance's Weis & Hickman, and Actor Manganiello Cooking Up?

    yeah, in one spot she is described as woodland brown, in all other places she is described as white (fair skin or even pale, depending on the reference). I'd go with the vast majority of cases over the one exception "There is likewise a dispute over Laurana's skin tone. Dragons of Autumn...
  7. mamba

    D&D General What Are Dragonlance's Weis & Hickman, and Actor Manganiello Cooking Up?

    at no point did I say anything about the population of Krynn being white, not sure where this is coming from at all. The books already tell us that not everyone is white, we do not need to extrapolate from a few known persons no, it is not important to the story, I said as much already ask the...
  8. mamba

    D&D General Ben Riggs interviews Fred Hicks and Cam Banks, then shares WotC sales data.

    nothing, but 2014 was selling faster in 2016 and basically right through until 2024 than it was in 2014. So 2024 selling faster than 5e did in 2014 is not telling us anything about whether it sold faster than 5e did in, say 2019 to 2022.
  9. mamba

    D&D General What Are Dragonlance's Weis & Hickman, and Actor Manganiello Cooking Up?

    I am not sure why it matters even if he had been biased, or even whether it was his bias vs Weis / Hickman’s. The books describe them a certain way, the art depicts them a certain way, the two match. When turning a book into a movie having established art to establish a visual identity is...
  10. mamba

    D&D General What Are Dragonlance's Weis & Hickman, and Actor Manganiello Cooking Up?

    no, that they make it a good show. Of course they will deviate from the source in places, changes can be good, neutral, or bad however. The question is what the end result is, not whether there are changes
  11. mamba

    D&D General What Are Dragonlance's Weis & Hickman, and Actor Manganiello Cooking Up?

    that does not change what they all look like in the paintings though. It’s not like I am randomly insisting on them all being white (or even on them all being white in the first place…)
  12. mamba

    D&D General What Are Dragonlance's Weis & Hickman, and Actor Manganiello Cooking Up?

    there is no reason to assume otherwise either, it’s not like we find a lot of blue and purple folks
  13. mamba

    D&D General What Are Dragonlance's Weis & Hickman, and Actor Manganiello Cooking Up?

    you can say this however you want, it’s not like I am not aware of it. I also was not talking about all of Krynn, and have made that distinction more than once
  14. mamba

    D&D General What Are Dragonlance's Weis & Hickman, and Actor Manganiello Cooking Up?

    yeah, it will be as diverse as they want it to be, no argument there if they stick to casting people that kinda fit the established main characters it also tells me something about the show runners. Unlike you I won’t turn off regardless of whether they do or not however, I will have different...
  15. mamba

    D&D General What Are Dragonlance's Weis & Hickman, and Actor Manganiello Cooking Up?

    I mean, that is fairly obvious ;) It isn’t even that important to me, I am not gonna condemn the show for not sticking to it. I am just not a fan of robbing every place of its identity in order to have the ‘London mix of ethnicities’
  16. mamba

    D&D General What Are Dragonlance's Weis & Hickman, and Actor Manganiello Cooking Up?

    yeah, maybe that is not the point though. The story is not set in modern day London. I think having every village be 25% black, 15% asian, 40% white, and whatever the rest is made up of (or whatever the mix is) in order to represent London to be much too restrictive and the opposite of...
  17. mamba

    D&D General What Are Dragonlance's Weis & Hickman, and Actor Manganiello Cooking Up?

    to a degree, sure. I picked the Majeres as hispanic for that reason, Raistlin has a color of his own anyway, and Caramon is the tan outdoorsy type. Goldmoon is a native, she can look the part more than she does in Elmore’s paintings. None of them can be black and still resemble the paintings...
  18. mamba

    D&D General What Are Dragonlance's Weis & Hickman, and Actor Manganiello Cooking Up?

    I am not discounting that, I already said Goldmoon and Riverwind as natives, the Majeres as hispanic. Maybe Tanis as half-asian would work, I only ruled out black and asian for the cast of the heroes. I’d still try to keep it somewhat similar to the paintings though instead of flat out ignoring...
  19. mamba

    D&D General What Are Dragonlance's Weis & Hickman, and Actor Manganiello Cooking Up?

    why, you think there are no good actors that resemble Elmore’s paintings? Also, I never said they need to be exact look-alikes, I already said that Goldmoon can be more native and that the Majeres could be hispanic, I only ruled out black and asian for the main actors (not Krynn…)
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