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Wait a minute...the idea that D&D is a game is a "ridiculous assumption"? What do you think the G is for? What are we all doing?

As I said, the issue isn't flash. It is continuous, always-available flash. Casters in Dragonlance ran out of spells (usually depicted as running out of stamina, especially in Raistlin's case). Maybe try reading what I wrote? If this is about how wizards running out of spells and becoming...

Level Up or ACKS II, depending on my mood.

Which is why I like a broad tent or multiple starting points for RPGs based on those franchises. I wouldn't at all mind D&D doing the same.

Agree to disagree on just about every point you make here.

Dying Earth, from which the original Vancian system was derived, is literature, not a video game. And anyway, there's no realistic spellcasting system, so whatever you use just needs to be consistent and make sense in the setting to my mind.

Meh. In my game, all the PCs start out as glorified (maybe) commoners with a couple uncommon skills anyway.

I said continuous flashy magic. Dragonlance followed the rules of 1e (more or less). No always-on cantrips.

Well, we both clearly have a preference. Good thing there are different games, even different versions of D&D (in the general sense, rather than the IP sense), that cater to them. I just don't treat popularity or recentcy as important factors in my discourse.

Of course. I mean equality in how these games and varying playstyles and rulesets are discussed, not in what they are and how well they accomplish any specific goal any specific player wants from them.

It should I agree, but saying so explicitly is IMO less likely to engender conflict and anger.

From my perspective you were doing the same. The fact that the current game apparently leans more towards your preferences doesn't change that, or make those preferences more valid than mine. That's all I've ever had to say on the subject, but people keep telling me I'm demanding everyone play...

Cool! How was your technobabble applied mechanically?

Sure, but IMO it should be claimed subjectively, preferably explicitly so.

Unless you're on any thread tagged with the word "D&D" in any context right? 😉

Why should yours? Why can't multiple options be presented?

I want my game to care about reasonable simulation more than PC vs PC balance. That is not the same as badly designed, and I won't accept that claim at all. Does "playing your character" mean the same thing to you as casting constant spells at all time? It doesn't to me. Like I said, that seems...

Shame the scientific approach generally has no mechanical effect.

I would love to see wizards portrayed more like this, and have the mechanics back it up. You want a flavorful niche compared to other spellcasters? There it is.

I strongly disagree, because the difference between PCs and NPCs is functionally narrative and metagame (as in, outside the confines of the setting), and that has no bearing to me on what abilities should be allowed. Whether or not the creature in question has done what is needed to acquire the...