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I think typically in linear campaigns, milestones are level ups between chapters. But you can do a sandbox with XP milestones for specific accomplishments.

They are integrated into the setting and are a fundamental part of it. That is why they are in the Eberron core book. Right. Dragonborn and Tieflings were not PHB races when Eberron was created. That is literally the whole point of the discussion.

Having a "homeland" is not the only way to "accommodate and integrate" them into the setting. Shifters, for example, are deeply integrated into Eberron, as are changelings. Both the kalashtar and the warforged have homelands.

It depends on your goal. I agree that if "telling a story" is the goal, then counting XP is not really the right tool for that job. I mean, a "story" as such always emerges from play, but only in retrospect when doing things like dungeon crawling for loot, etc. But if things like set piece...

Your interpretation that it is punishment for "stupid" decisions is what is off. I did not mean to imply that at all. In the theoretical scenario, the players decided to do a thing in the world, and the world reacts. That is neither stupidity nor punishment.

I am not sure how that leads to the idea of punitive viking hat GMing, but okay.

That is a strange interpretation of what I said.

I love stuff like this. Not only does it show that the players are invested in the game, it gives me all kinds of opportunities to bring on the wandering monsters and rival adventuring groups. So you are going to make a hell of a racket and spend a week clearing out the copper piping? Cool. In...

Or it is a way of simply not actually integrating Goliaths into the setting. These FR books gave WotC an opportunity to make FR a fully current D&D setting snd it sounds like they squandered it. So not only do you not have a new setting, you don't have an old setting that actually reflects D&D...

Between this thread and the high level adventure thread i started, I want to make some stuff happen just to prove it can be done.

I guess that is one of the inherent benefits of xp for gold or other concrete, non-combat rewards. If it is worthwhile for players to farm random encounters for xp, they will.

See, in those situations, the juice isn't (or shouldn't be) worth the squeeze. You spend all this time and energy and (most importantly) noise shooting bats and all you have done is gain 7 XP and given me multiple encounter rolls. Congrats?

Yeah, that is definitely a thing, especially with modern D&D and similar.

Just to be clear, I am not arguing that you can't integrate dragonborn or tie flings or goliaths or whatever into FR or Eberron. I am just saying it would be easier and cooler to just build a setting that fundamentally incorporates all those things. I get that people like FR. Great. Yay. But...

I wonder, is this phrasing a way to "incorporate" them without doing any actual work? Seems like it. Again, the benefit of a setting written for the new core is that you don't have to do any of that. You can just create a world that accommodates and truly integrates all the core species and...

Nope, you're right, I scanned too quickly. Sorry about that. My only complaint in the original was that it did not mention it the first time, which can be troublesome.

If you are hand waving it, just be honest and level them by fiat. But this thread is about your preferences as a player.

This continues the mistake of not being clear about whether contact with a single Madoi awakens them all or just the one touched. Clarity is paramount in trap rooms.

RPGCon in Marlborough MA in April.

I don't necessarily disagree, but I find it revealing that no one has actually engaged with the idea of actually breaking down what 16th level character can do in order to examine how one might design encounters that engage those abilities. All we have gotten is people complaining about how it...