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Nope. They look at what seem to go on in trad game, think they can codify it to produce the same behavior, and miss that the codification actuactually prevents the process that is actually going on in trad games. You get something that looks deceptively similar in play 99% of the time. But the...

So you see how I consider the entire notion of "simulationistic game" silly? Even the conversation about how some rules might be better at supporting "simulationistic play" than others is in my eyes speculative at best, and seem to have born very little fruits.

You are now trying to impose a single definition of "sim" onto a conversation that has shown that there are a lot of understandings of "sim play", most of them hardly having anything to do with the everyday word "simulation". I do believe @Lanefan intended one of these technical terms, and I...

Because it clearly was an "errata". They didnt have the distribution technology to effectively distribute otherwise at that point in time. That way we living in the happy future can take advantage of the superrior way of experience the dragonlance saga, closer to the way the authors intended...

Well, the absence of pre written adventures for PbtA games might just be that the entire structure and philosophy behind basically makes pre written adventures impossible and nonsensical to write for (almost?) all of them? As for not prewritten adventures for non D&D systems? They are almost in...

Yes and in my breakdown of differences between how I run D&D compared to DW, I didn't claim to not use any of the moves. I singled out a subset I wouldn't generally do. It is the principles I pointed to as the main differentiator between what I have been doing and DW. I reject the...

Well have I ever run a "combat" (technical term) without using the rules for "combat" (technical term)? No because the technical term is defined by usage of the rules. What I did reply to was: The context here was a claim that D&D had a in fiction trigger for a rule system(technical term) Yes...

Yes, that is the DW prescribed approach :) I do see it could provide an effect. I just know that is definitely not what I am currently doing. This formulation wouldn't come natural to me at all. Dunwick is not sitting around being able to answer questions I as GM am asking. Dunwick isn't even...

Thank you for being so kind to keep this up! I feel like there is some progression here, and I enjoy this more than it might seem. I hope you are not finding this frustrating in any way though! I will not give a full reply, as I actually think we are close to a mutual understanding on most...

The easiest to describe is the kind of game where I run a third party module. Then I do not set up any conflicts or threat myself, I relly exclusively on the ones provided in the module. Common practice for this play style is to tweak and personalise the module to the characters. I hence make...

I have a couple of relatively recent examples for you. A wandering monster goblin shot an arrow at the party and missed. Players reacted by withdrawing into a nearby room. Initiative was not rolled. A player tried to cut a rope bridge and failed. I called for initiative with no hostile...

If I make a "generic" remark that everyone that eat cereal for breakfast are morons, and you happen to eat cereals for breakfast - how is that not a personal attack against you?

So did I - and yet again with your comments for reference. And you had also my post to misunderstand.

Actually not. There is the middleman of the DM. This might seem like a formality, but it is indeed essential to the experience. If the thief picks the lock it is not the rules that say a thief tools check should be used. It is the DM that looks at the situation, and decides that in this case...

Not sure. Gloomhaven manage to be pretty tense without character death being on the table at all.. Respawn mechanics is everywhere in the world of MMORPGs. I do not think threat of death is essential to the D&D experience. It might be essential to a particular sub-playstyle.

Think dangerous doesn't describe what to do, it describe what to *think *. Yes the actual text, not just the heading.

Finally managed to compose a complete reply. So useless? Well, if you want to water it down to that level.. Nope. No maps whatsoever except 3rd party modules. But then I do not make dungeon crawls. Well, if you want to water it down to "sometimes" do this. Let us then say I don't care being...

Well, if that is what you think, I guess that might explain a thing or two. Let me just say then that I have encountered people with a somewhat different stance in the past..

For the principles, I used the heading for the first 3, then I went to the site and read the full description before commenting on the rest. Are you sure it is not you that is misunderstanding something here?

I think you missed the point. SBY play is not what you would call sandbox play. Similar for the other two. They are (semi)fictitious play styles defined by their scene framing technique. Their entire purpose is to serve as an example of how concepts like the ones we have talked about in this...