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Okay so here is the post I just made on our face book group for Tuesday night game (bonus 2 players not currently able to play are still in group so we will get MORE responses) Hypothetically, on character creation night, one person has a concept that works well as a cleric, but they don't...

You know the funny part is you are absolutely right. When it works well out of combat healing is best... I love the HD mechanic. But you can’t always take a short rest, and you sometimes need healing in a fight. Keeping everyone up and acting is the best choice most times. 99.9% of gamers...

No one demanded. Calling for healing when you need it is normal in D&D the “veto the character” option is very friendly in a group who have been friends for 17+ years (okay we do have 1 new player but she is cool and gets it). and yes, if you start your pitch with “how I don’t want to help...

I will copy and paste that mostly. I refuse to use the word demand (because as you said no bias) and will replace it with ask for

Casters are better then non casters in 5e because they hide social and exploration abilities in spells

I thought useing a spell broke stealth

I don’t play pathfinder but my favorite classes in 4e worked that way too... my fighter could focus more on damage and be a striker ect... I miss having mechanical options that aren’t labeled soellsy

All the classes are designed with a role in mind. (Some more then one) but every class can be manipulated to fill others (with various results... fighters are going to be crappy leaders) especially with subclass choice. This is what I miss from 4e. They just laid the cards on the table and said...

So last night before I ran game I asked my group (witch has no healer right now except an artificer with a wand that has 3 charges) they all agreed that if you prep healing spells it is not selfish for someone who is hurt to ask you to use the spell you preped. so then I asked about the...

No matter how many times you call it a demand it is called team work

Except in this example they not only have spells they CAN prep as healing they HAVE preped them as healing... so they have the magazines but don’t want YOU to be able to ask for them.

I can’t even understand the straw man you are attacking anymore

I am not the one espousing a selfish mind set... quite the opposite

Not even close If you CAN help and CHOOSE not to...

The Druid CANT heal when wild shaped. The bard without healing spells can’t heal at all... mid the Druid where in caster mode it would be the same. No inconsistency

I can not even imagine a definition for friend that doesn’t include some version of “people who can turn to you when they need help, and people you can turn to when you do” back before the 2020. We gamed at a store if a stranger sat at the table to play 2 weeks in a row and said they were...

I would let the player pick at character creation and keep it

No I have a feat that gives me cure wounds primal savagery and guidance (all from Druid). Healing our barbarian on the off chance he gets bloodied or is in danger is ALWAYs the best way for me to spend a slot

Friends who never help when you need it when they can are not friends... the are people you know. Friends help if they can.

Seems pretty selfish to me. Again I wouldn’t want to play a main line fighter in that game.