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Btw. I joke with my warlock who is the main healer on saterday (feat) that healing our barabarian is the best use of my initative... he does more then my finger of death on average and he takes 1/2 damage most times

Not always see above

So example: Initative is bugbear Fighter Cleric fighter has 8hp left and uses second wind and rolls a 1... netting him 6hp (up to 14) he knows the bugbear throws 2d6+x but isn’t sure what x is maybe 4 maybe 6... If cleric casts healing word and attacks they can get fighter up 2d4+3 if they...

So she has to choose who to heal on the rare occasion both fighters need it. Her choice so far seems to be “nah I don’t heal... just drop”

I guess it depends on who goes before the bad guy that is attacking me. In general if I can just do it myself as well I will. Again if I am calling for healing, I need help... it is a life or death battle and I am expecting my allies to help me with there resources, as I expect I would help them

By this threads logic when my buddy Kurt moved and he asked us to help he was ordering us to... “next week I have to move my stuff” “I need healing” wow what orders what commands we expect our friends to help us if they can...so selfish

Nobody ordered anyone

The player in question had no way to come back, he had to draw up a new PC... (I think that was his divine soul sorcerer) as far as selfish goes. Peeping healing spells then with holding them is pretty selfish. Play something without healing spells if you don’t want to heal

No one demanded anything nobody ordered anyone. Try again. Your straw man is not me. If I need healing and you are capabile of it and you don’t that is a jerk play. One my table would ALL be quite cross with. also by RAW no potions other then PHB are for sale, and that is true in many...

See this is a straw man too... “what if I was useing a class feature toy help that stopped me from healing you” is not anywhere near the same as “What If on my turn when I can heal you I choose not to” now if every now and then we disagree on weather you should have healed last turn or not...

Character creation night/session 0. Where everyone gets on same page...

Again this is why my group does “all on table and all agree” before we play... that way no misunderstandings

1st yup we have had a lot of fun playing “down a role”. Heck my saterday game only has 3 players half the time since 5e started. mad for not likeing other people to be able to veto your character. Do you not build them togather on a character creation night?

I wish I could but the group moved on... I still hold out hope 6e will be more like 4e with some improvements.

Well in the 15 ish years since our games have gotten better and more fun not worse and I have never seen anyone do what you said it is a recipe for... As for why it goes back to the 3e days. We had some power gamers who ruined the game for us. The one in question this time played a cleric who...

Me too and I kept hopping something was coming

I backed that 😭

And this looks crazy annoying. “Throw away how”. Who does that, who thinks like that. We took hop damage helping the party, if we ask for healing and you have it but won’t do it you are going to be asked to leave after a while.

We had a big blow up a few years ago back in 3e about this. We since the end of that edition have had a house rule that anyone can veto another players concept and things like this get discussed at character creation night (session 0). playing in a party means agreeing to work together. I...

For fighter I would prefer a general choice like champion battle master or eldritch knight at 1st then a thematic choice at 3rd (knight, battle captain, juggernaut)