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    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    Listen, provide soft workable alternatives and gently encourage. i.e. Use honey Reflect and provide examples on how allowing for player/table input has changed players guarded/ min-maxing ways made players more trusting of the GM allowed players to focus on roleplay and genuineness of...
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    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    Out of interest since I haven't been following this thread as diligently as many others, is there anyone who is actually advocating all those things secret rule-changing, illusionism, fudging, secret resolution & consequence as a DM-must? I know I played like this in the 90's and 2000's but one...
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    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    Right - good question! Rolling often in the open and claiming your bad rolls, having players experience your frustration is good. Opening dialogue when possible about which actions produced which consequences in the fiction. I realise many guard a lot of secret backstory as they try have PCs...
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    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    Hopefully at the table. We all make errors; GMs are not infallible. One needs to foster a spirit of sincerity and co-operation. It is easy for me to talk about this since I play with friends. They trust me and I trust them. If there are things I do not know it becomes a table discussion. If the...
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    D&D 5E (2024) Skill Mastery as an idea

    Nature of D&D... Tinkering is not 5e specific. People like to tailor the rules for the type of game they wish to play. Sure, a standard would work for skills, but magic is the real problem IMO.
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    Trailer Stranger Things 5

    Not a high bar these days...
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    D&D 5E (2024) Skill Mastery as an idea

    If one has a good GM, they'll attempt to fix the asymmetrical issue which exists with the game in the first place.
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    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    True. That is probably why I'm not a fan of John Wick's fall (end of 3# and in 4) and the falling damage system within D&D.
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    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    We have also seen scenes where the hero also abides by the villain's orders. We have also seen John Wick survive falling from unbelievable heights, where some of us inwardly groan. It really depends what kind of fiction you're looking to emulate at the table.
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    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    We had a Table Decision when the players did this at our table to an NPC, that same could be applied to them.. the players agreed to it. There are many ways one could go and one would have to consider the fiction in play, most importantly who the villain is - i.e. if the example above was a...
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    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    Here is what I find funny (and I haven't read all the posts, but just a post here and there) Ron Edwards does this deep theory crafting on RPGs - talks about Simulationism etc. But then when it suits the argument, people here imply D&D isn't simulationist at all and pushback against D&Ders...
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    What do you do when a Player dies?

    We've lost one player and he was absolutely an amazing individual. I got to know him through his nephew when I was looking for new players online. And as it turned out he was 4 direct steps removed from the person, my oldest friend, who introduced me into the hobby (small world). Towards the...
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    D&D General Do THIS, WotC!

    Desperately looking forward to Tyranny of Dragons for only a 4th time with just a cover change
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    Draw Steel News

    That is quite a few games - lots of cool ideas I suspect in that pool! We are certainly spoiled for choice.
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    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    Lol. We aren't narrative, I have no real experience with playing narrative games. I'd be doing a massive disservice to that style I think. It's only what I've picked up from here, links provided by narrative players and some youtubes. We've got a hybrid thing going on in a traditional D&D...
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    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    He's joining our table, our ways. If I were joining another table I'd acclimatize to their style of play. We have a reward system in play and decisions like the one he made would exclude him from such reward system. In any event I asked when he picks his character's TIBFs he considers how easy...
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    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    The game was created with hit points and never moved past that point. That doesn't conflict with the fact that many simulationists prefer to remove/reject neo-gamist techniques or add-ons. For example many dislike Inspiration. And I'm sure you'd agree it is much easier to reject/remove gamist...
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    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    I mentioned it upthread that D&D sadly trains players to act in ways that many DMs feel is out of character for their creations. Lanefan mentioned a similar thing that only rational choices are made which always happen to be the most optimal. The game promotes min/maxing due to its style of play...
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    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    Out of interest Micah in the D&D games you run do you allow NPCs to persuade and/or intimidate PCs via the skill system?
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    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    True. But that doesn't mean that crowd wishes for MORE gamist structures.
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