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  1. SableWyvern

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    Yeah, I've always read it is players who legitimately feel it's the way the character would behave. That could be because they're naturally disruptive players who created naturally disruptive characters, or it could just be the way things worked out even if everyone is participating in good...
  2. SableWyvern

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    It it is my understanding that it is fairly well accepted that people are, in general, not great at assessing risk. This, then, appears to be a dispute over how an individual wants to interpret "we know what the risks are at least to a general level," in light of the low average quality of...
  3. SableWyvern

    Would ACKS be a good fit to capture the BECMI-feel?

    It has 8 eight hours of sleep required to restore casting ability as was standard in the pre-4e days. Not as such, although a character who reaches 0hp or lower is likely to sustain a serious injury (assuming they survive at all) and will often not be combat capable without some long-term rest...
  4. SableWyvern

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    A while ago I saw someone on another forum comment that RM does the Forgotten Realms better than D&D. I have never had any interest in Forgotten Realms, but I've since discovered that the 1e Forgotten Realms is actually pretty cool, and I've been having a lot of fun adapting RM to run my next...
  5. SableWyvern

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    Who is going to force you to use @FrogReaver's system against your will?
  6. SableWyvern

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    Enforced in whose game? Not yours, I'm quite sure. If in theirs, then, why are you opposed to this?
  7. SableWyvern

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    It only sounds great because it is!
  8. SableWyvern

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    OK, now we reach the true crux of the issue. @FrogReaver'a preferences should be opposed and derided because there's a chance that if they're allowed to be defended and repeated they might become widely popular and it's important to you that only your personal preferences should be accepted as...
  9. SableWyvern

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    Everyone wants games that cater to them. This is normal, and not something to be attacked or questioned. At no point, ever, in the history of the universe, has @FrogReaver said that everyone else has to play their games the same way @FrogReaver prefers. I defy you to find anything anywhere where...
  10. SableWyvern

    Should PCs Be Exceptional?

    Yes, they have. That is the whole basis of my position. I have seen people say, "Well, I've been gaming since '76, and I can say most people were doing X & Y during Z period." And then someone else will say, "Well I started in '75 and no one I know ever did X during any period. During Z, as far...
  11. SableWyvern

    Should PCs Be Exceptional?

    This is exactly what I'm talking about. You are deferring to your decades of experience, which is a perfectly natural thing to do. But there are people with similar amounts of experience who will tell you that they have seen different trends and that what they've found to be rare is different...
  12. SableWyvern

    Should PCs Be Exceptional?

    That sounds a lot like my original point. :cool: We have very limited and self-selected data pools to begin with and, even with the data we do have, the information is often very fuzzy. My overall position on the topic is based on a different set of data -- it's the number of people I see pop...
  13. SableWyvern

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    So, the point is even more extreme then. No one should be allowed to design games that @FrogReaver likes, because if they're allowed to exist there is a chance that people who don't like that style might be forced to play them and endure terrible torment? I ask again, who are these people that...
  14. SableWyvern

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    Who are these people, exactly, and why you are assuming they're sitting at a table with @FrogReaver while he participates in this game, and being subjected to this horrible experience? Because I strongly suspect they exist only in your imagination, and there is no need for you to protect them...
  15. SableWyvern

    Should PCs Be Exceptional?

    The problem is, there's no good means to measure who is actually running what and how. At best, you might be able to make semi-informed guesses based on what is posted on reddit, EnWorld etc, and what the active posters there claim to do or like. You might draw some data about people who game...
  16. SableWyvern

    Should PCs Be Exceptional?

    In Ars Magica, stay-at-homes level faster. They just don't get to have as much fun.
  17. SableWyvern

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    Meh. You just wasted a whole five minutes, and it was your choice to push your luck trying to get a bunch of extra skills knowing full well that you were already extremely lucky to have survived two terms as a scout. Edit: to answer your follow-up question, modern versions have much more...
  18. SableWyvern

    Would ACKS be a good fit to capture the BECMI-feel?

    1. The default game setting is the periphery of a crumbling pseudo-Roman Empire, but anything you can do in B/X you can do in ACKS, plus more. Any existing Mystara modules and setting stuff you have will fit in pretty seemlessly, just like it will with many OSR products. 2. IMO, the best bits...
  19. SableWyvern

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    Not to put words in @zakael19's mouth, but I took it to be an assumption that, one way or another, this is what will happen in the general style of play where you are looking to maintain a specific narrative thread, not that it happens in any and every game.
  20. SableWyvern

    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    The problem that I, personally, have with this (and which is only a problem because of the style of play I'm generally looking for, and not because it's wrong in any kind of objective sense), is because I feel that it presumes that it is up to the GM to ensure the players have a way to continue...
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