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    D&D 5E (2024) How can I do a Charisma-Investigation (or a Strength/Dexterity-Investigation if I can't use Charisma) to find a secret door?

    Yes you pretty much did, post 120: "If he .... was okay staying alone to possibly die to random encounters, then sure." Like I said, you should just admit you were wrong in your first 5 or 6 posts or so and that he way I was doing it was is a perfectly fine and a great and approved method and...
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    D&D 5E (2024) Rare Languages

    We just handwave it, pick your two languages. Dragonborn from Tymanthor and Drow from Menzobarrenzen should know Draconic and Undercommon respectively so just choose those as one of your languages. In my games Druidic and Thieves Cant can't be chosen as a starting language, those have to come...
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    D&D 5E (2024) How can I do a Charisma-Investigation (or a Strength/Dexterity-Investigation if I can't use Charisma) to find a secret door?

    I would disagree with that and it certainly isn't stated that way in any rules. Whatever. A lot of the criticisms were based on how it was not believable that one of the PCs would leave the group, even though IRL I have friends who leave group events all the time. I think it is far less...
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    D&D 5E (2024) How can I do a Charisma-Investigation (or a Strength/Dexterity-Investigation if I can't use Charisma) to find a secret door?

    Can you please provide where the rules state this. No one I have played with thinks a character should be hunted down by wandering monsters and killed between sessions on their way back to the inn because they want to leave the cult hideout while the rest of the group explores it ..... but you do!
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    D&D 5E (2024) How can I do a Charisma-Investigation (or a Strength/Dexterity-Investigation if I can't use Charisma) to find a secret door?

    But I am allowed that option. This line started out with multiple posts by you saying I was doing it wrong, insisting that it was not right, until I pointed out that the method we are using is in the DMG. Now instead of getting on here and defending yourself, trying to justify your method...
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    D&D 5E (2024) How can I do a Charisma-Investigation (or a Strength/Dexterity-Investigation if I can't use Charisma) to find a secret door?

    The same reason they would go after them if a player had to stay at work late and missed a session. I don't know why a DM would do either of those things in a friendly game, but clearly some on this board see no problem with that kind of behavior. Either is fine it is their game though and...
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    D&D 5E (2024) How can I do a Charisma-Investigation (or a Strength/Dexterity-Investigation if I can't use Charisma) to find a secret door?

    That is rediculous. Making sense has nothing to do with being fair and there are a ton of rules and abilitis for that matter that "make no sense" It is extremely to be fair - just accept that it is a game and let all your players do it. Your inability to suspend disbelief or accept these very...
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    D&D 5E (2024) How can I do a Charisma-Investigation (or a Strength/Dexterity-Investigation if I can't use Charisma) to find a secret door?

    Absolutely they can. The DM can just flat out kill any character who has to miss a session and does not want someone else playing their character. I agree 100%, they can do it. It is not presented as an option in the rulebook though. I also love how this entire thread has changed from people...
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    D&D 5E (2024) How can I do a Charisma-Investigation (or a Strength/Dexterity-Investigation if I can't use Charisma) to find a secret door?

    Yes and if you say my character does not continue with the rest of the party while I am gone, then she doesn't. Nothing about player agency only applies when you are physically at the table. I mean if I go and grab a coke out of the refrigerator or run to the bathroom can the DM or another...
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    D&D 5E (2024) How can I do a Charisma-Investigation (or a Strength/Dexterity-Investigation if I can't use Charisma) to find a secret door?

    Yes, all three are options and NONE of them say you can let someone play another player without their permission, nor do they say you should kill a character who chooses to stay behind with Wandering Monsters. As DM you are free to do any of these things or anything else you want...
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    D&D 5E (2024) How can I do a Charisma-Investigation (or a Strength/Dexterity-Investigation if I can't use Charisma) to find a secret door?

    Oh as far as the original question, we leveled up last night (Rogue still absent), but my PC now has 2 levels of Fighter, so we are making all the checks no problem.
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    D&D 5E (2024) How can I do a Charisma-Investigation (or a Strength/Dexterity-Investigation if I can't use Charisma) to find a secret door?

    I don't see how fading away when a player is not there would create confusion or tension. Repeatedly missing sessions could create tension, but I don't see how the "fade away" choice to resolve the in game mechanics when absences occur could. It is pretty darn straightforward in my mind, and...
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    D&D 5E (2024) How can I do a Charisma-Investigation (or a Strength/Dexterity-Investigation if I can't use Charisma) to find a secret door?

    I was talking specifically about your comment - "Breaks it wide open for me because it makes no sense" It doesn't have to make sense to you because you are not the player. What makes sense to the player and what the player would choose for his PC to do is what defines player agency.
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    D&D 5E (2024) How can I do a Charisma-Investigation (or a Strength/Dexterity-Investigation if I can't use Charisma) to find a secret door?

    Yes the DM can completely eliminate player agency in every way and every dimension. This is not typically regarded as a good thing by most gamers, including most DMs.
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    D&D 5E (2024) How can I do a Charisma-Investigation (or a Strength/Dexterity-Investigation if I can't use Charisma) to find a secret door?

    And having someone else play a PC when the player does not agree to it is NOT one of the ways mentioned. Now that may be how it is done at your table or in your game; but kill them or kick them out if they don't want someone else to play their character is NOT mentioned as one of the ways to...
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    D&D 5E (2024) How can I do a Charisma-Investigation (or a Strength/Dexterity-Investigation if I can't use Charisma) to find a secret door?

    That is because 2024 is the context we are discussing it in. How it happens in 1E or Pathfinder or Shadowdark, may be interesting and may be of value, but this is a 2024 forum and what I was discussing was specifically about a 2024 game. Also "fade away" was in the 2014 DMG as well, so it is...
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    D&D 5E (2024) How can I do a Charisma-Investigation (or a Strength/Dexterity-Investigation if I can't use Charisma) to find a secret door?

    The DM can do anything they want, but as a point of fact there are rules on this. The DM can choose to ignore them, like for example I choose to ignore the new version of fighter Indomitable and how MS apparently ignores weapon mastery, but that does not mean those rules don't exist or that...
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    D&D 5E (2024) How can I do a Charisma-Investigation (or a Strength/Dexterity-Investigation if I can't use Charisma) to find a secret door?

    But it is not your character. The player chooses how to play the character, not the DM. That is the basic premise of player agency. It doesn't have to make sense to you, it has to make sense to them!
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    D&D 5E (2024) Using Action Surge to cast spells in 2024

    Why? There is no "declaring" anywhere in the rules. You Ready a spell as per the rules, cast it as normal and then release the energy in response to the trigger. It is pretty simple. You are not casting the spell in response to the trigger (you are casting it whether or not it happens), you...
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    D&D 5E (2024) How can I do a Charisma-Investigation (or a Strength/Dexterity-Investigation if I can't use Charisma) to find a secret door?

    There are 3 options in the DMG. The first two I quoted and the third one starts off "With the absent player's consent, have another player run the missing player’s character, or run the character yourself if you feel you can do so. ..." If you are playing RAW the player must consent to...
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