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I agree, it always is. The opposite for me. Now the PHB had more of the happy go lucky art; but I barely pay attention to that book! The DMG and MM art is where it is at for me and that as definitely had more of the dark and grim art than the bright happy art. I like both, but the grittier...

I am curious, how much do you think the most recent books from WotC (the MM & DD) fit into the idea of modern art:

They would have to pretty much create a whole new SRD for 4e too, unless it can piggy-back on the 3e or 5e one. The 4e SRD is in a very different, and much less usable, format than the 3e and 5e SRD.

That is fine to be excited about, but that was never really in the cards. They only ever discussed looking at older editions and implied 3e would be easy so why not.

Not a mechanic for me, but glad to see they are trying things out.

It is to early to appear on this list, but the Epic / Immortal Rules for 5e just launched on Kickstarter: God Rules Immortals for 5e

Any interesting innovations?

That is not my concept. Like I said, I will sketch something up and then we can discuss.

I'll sketching something up when I get some time. Then maybe it will make more sense.

To clarify, it doesn't "work" for me. I'm a bit of a traditionalist when it comes to dragons. That being said, the naysayers have made me want to figure out a way if could "work" more generally. It is never something I would have in my game - just like any other gem dragon really (or psionics...

Basically, but I don't think it needs to be a completely different creature (thought that is OK too). I've got some ideas going based on existing material. I'll try to flesh them out over the next few days.

Yep, if you read through a few more posts you will see that is exactly where I am going. Still not enough of concept for some though! I am trying to come up with a reason for why they are like this though. The FR wiki gave me some ideas, I need to look at FToG and see if I can get a few more.

We have come a long way since then. These questions have been addressed by others far more qualified than me and they agree with me on this! Though I did always appreciate the hot-air ballon approach! First, I said this dragon, not all dragons. Also, my point was that greater weight only...

Yep those (1 & 2) are both what are more interesting, and difficult, IMO.

I wasn't thinking of keeping the design the same, just the concept. I think a series of redesigns will be needed.

Bat wings are quite bit more flexible than bird or airplane wings. I only remember reading one paper on it a while ago so my memory is faulty and likely outdated, but they achieve similar function with quite different mechanics. Thy were surprised how much so after really studying it with...

Two issues: wing size and strength of materials. Dragon wings would have to be much larger to produce the required lift and the bones and particularly the muscles would have to me much stronger than currently known. This related to weight of course too. We can handwave these because of magic...

No, I still want them to be backward, that is the whole fun of this exercise. My current concept is a version of a h. bird wing but in reverse. You of course need more than that, but that is the concept. The point is the h. bird can move backward with wings aerodynamic in the forward direction...