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  1. mamba

    D&D 5E (2024) Lorwyn: First Light Released on D&D Beyond

    guess we will have to disagree on that, I compare the price of a sandwich to a burger or something like that, not to a lawnmower. That a $40 sandwich costs 10% of what a lawnmower costs does not make it cheap or justifies its price (no idea what a lawnmower actually costs ;) ) Also, I never...
  2. mamba

    D&D 5E (2024) Lorwyn: First Light Released on D&D Beyond

    it better be, but that BluRays cost around the same is still no justification for the sandwich costing that much ;)
  3. mamba

    D&D 5E (2024) Lorwyn: First Light Released on D&D Beyond

    so other TTRPGs or 5e products are not competition... I am not saying that $15 is necessarily a lot of money in absolute terms, but for this, yeah, it is way too much. That some sandwich costs $15 is besides the point, a $40 sandwich is also overpriced, even though a BluRay might cost $40, the...
  4. mamba

    D&D 5E (2024) Lorwyn: First Light Released on D&D Beyond

    I based this on what the competition charges for comparable products, personal interest and income are not part of this at all. There are tons of products that I am not interested in, and I never complain that they are too expensive because of that. This one absolutely is too expensive in...
  5. mamba

    D&D 5E (2024) Lorwyn: First Light Released on D&D Beyond

    the value someone ascribes to things with intrinsic value also varies widely from person to person, that is not really all that different from things with no intrinsic value yes, that is how you arrive at the price of something, you try to figure out at what price point you maximize your...
  6. mamba

    D&D 5E (2024) Lorwyn: First Light Released on D&D Beyond

    does the DLC fall into the luxury category for you? For me that is more the Beadle&Grimm or Dwarven Forge end of things.
  7. mamba

    D&D 5E (2024) Lorwyn: First Light Released on D&D Beyond

    if things are worth what people are willing to pay for them, then you finally dropped the pretense that the price is justified by being 50-60% of what a printed version would be. Then the price is justified purely by enough people being willing to buy it at that price point. I agree with that...
  8. mamba

    D&D 5E (2024) Lorwyn: First Light Released on D&D Beyond

    assuming there is extreme underpricing, which is very much debatable and depends on a lot more than the price of an individual item WotC’s profit margin is around 40%, higher for digital, so if they do not pay enough it is not because they do not charge enough
  9. mamba

    D&D 5E (2024) Lorwyn: First Light Released on D&D Beyond

    not sure what you mean by no intrinsic value, either D&D books have that or almost everything that is for sale does not have an intrinsic value… movies, books, concert tickets, … For simplicity the difference between the cost to create a thing and the price it sells at is what is relevant here...
  10. mamba

    D&D 5E (2024) Lorwyn: First Light Released on D&D Beyond

    I am sorry, if one dealer offers the same car at three times the price as any other dealer, I’d say they are factually overpriced. This is not all that different yeah, but the digital DLC still costs more per page than the FR book in print. Just because print may be underpriced (and they just...
  11. mamba

    D&D 5E (2024) Lorwyn: First Light Released on D&D Beyond

    and none of this has anything to do with the DLCs, they are not subsidizing the char generator. Nor does that take a lot of computing power either
  12. mamba

    D&D 5E (2024) Lorwyn: First Light Released on D&D Beyond

    not really, the definition of overpriced is something costing more than it is worth. That doesn’t mean that only things that do not find enough buyers to cover their cost are overpriced. Humans are not very rational actors, that is why the stock market creates huge bubbles every few years
  13. mamba

    D&D 5E (2024) Lorwyn: First Light Released on D&D Beyond

    no AI power consumption levels here, just dirt cheap storage. If that is an issue, WotC is more than welcome to offer PDFs instead
  14. mamba

    D&D 5E (2024) Lorwyn: First Light Released on D&D Beyond

    I did not say uninteresting, I said overpriced, and at 2 to 3 times what any other publisher charges I do consider that a verifiable fact, not an opinion. Will some people buy them regardless, sure, but that doesn’t make them not overpriced. Pretty sure they will be a success for WotC, they...
  15. mamba

    D&D 5E (2024) Lorwyn: First Light Released on D&D Beyond

    yeah, I was not complaining about the 50% of print for the digital version of the FR book though, but of the DLC for which there is no print version to begin with. That it is priced at 50% of a hypothetical printed version instead of relative to the page count of an already expensive digital FR...
  16. mamba

    D&D 5E (2024) Lorwyn: First Light Released on D&D Beyond

    yes, but that is also what makes these DLCs highly overpriced
  17. mamba

    D&D 5E (2024) Lorwyn: First Light Released on D&D Beyond

    you are always talking about print when I am talking about digital. There is no reason why digital is that expensive other than it cannibalizing print even more if its prices weren’t inflated (ie if the profit margin for both being the same would be determining the digital price)
  18. mamba

    D&D 5E (2024) Lorwyn: First Light Released on D&D Beyond

    nor do they have to do lot to keep the files hosted yes, whether this is a success for WotC will depend on how many people buy this. That has no bearing on it being overpriced in comparison to basically all other digital TTRPG products however
  19. mamba

    D&D 5E (2024) Lorwyn: First Light Released on D&D Beyond

    quite different actually, servers are basically free, unlike store rent - and WotC is more than welcome to sell me PDFs, if they feel having to host files is such a burden
  20. mamba

    D&D 5E (2024) Lorwyn: First Light Released on D&D Beyond

    I see a big difference between a sandwich and a digital product, sandwiches are not essentially free, except for a fixed cost to produce one yes, if it fails WotC was too greedy, the if was always part of this
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