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Yeah that's my concern too. It's hardly life and death but Dark Sun is a setting that, in theory, is incredibly relevant to our day and age, never more so, and if WotC puts out some half-hearted version (which I hope won't be the case) that people ignore it, and that players who heard about the...

Well if you don't care about WotC or what they create, that's totally fair. But you appeared to be speaking more broadly with your use of "we" rather than "I". I think an awful lot of people on the D&D board of ENworld probably do actually care about WotC and the blow-back/damage to WotC as a...

That is the issue. You're seemingly assuming because of the name that this would be, like the other BG games, an exceptional game. Unless you believe in like, fate/destiny and that the BG name is especially blessed, there's no reason to think a WotC-produced BG game would be even good at this...

I believe it but I remain somewhat skeptical it wasn't still pretty rules-heavy compared to the bulk of RPGs on the market - good to hear there are modules that remove stuff like those manuevers though. I don't think the "general public" knows what GURPS is. I don't think most people who play...

Quite right! Broken clock etc. but this isn't one of those times. I remember the first or one of the first times I had a player describe something was probably the early or mid 1990s, it was a Cleric or more likely Speciality Priest in the FR, and I was trying to roll up something (probably...

Yeah but you literally explicitly said "1E", not "AD&D". I was actually editing my post to note 2E was similar to 5E when you posted lol.

Who is saying that though? "People" is such a truly pointless thing to say when literally no-one here is doing that. I don't think you can really dial GURPS down to below the lower end of heavy crunch unless 4E has some exceptional dials I'm not aware of (which is not impossible, tell me if it...

I mean, it's quite a lot more complex than just roll stats, pick race, pick class or whatever the old exact 1E order was, but it's not complex, so actually yeah let me revise my statement - 5E's chargen is significantly more straightforward than how 5E plays (assuming you start at L1). 2E though...

Daggerheart is massively more straightforward than D&D in terms of rules complexity. I've played both recently. It doesn't even have initiative or actions or movement ranges in any conventional sense. I take it you're basically unfamiliar with it? Cosmere is also more straightforward based on...

Which ones specifically do you disagree about? I could understand saying something similar to @Micah Sweet re: overall viewpoint but I cannot immediately/easily see any logical basis for even attempting to argue most of the games are lighter. Perhaps I've overlooked something? There are 2-3 I...

Yeah I think a lot of people here do, because it's when they really got into RPGs, especially as the internet came online and they started discussing them.

Definitely agree. I've seen this a bunch with older point-based systems. I thought I felt that way for most of the time I played RPGs, but having played games that basically don't have rules for advancement (Mothership might as well not, for how much of a fantasy the rules it has for that are)...

It's a scale, and if you put 5E at medium (especially in the middle of medium), then you create a ridiculous situation where almost all games are light or medium. 5E has more and more complex rules (even accounting for exception-based design) than easily 85% of games out there (especially 2024...

I noticed this and am sure it's intentional. There's a common and well-evidenced theory of game design that basically people can only deal with 5 to 9 options (or thereabouts) at any given time if you want them to make quick and intentional choices they feel good about. This was why 4E capped...

Generally you roll when there's stress (in the non-mechanical sense) and or tight time pressure or your character doesn't really know how to do something. Obviously in combat situations that's hard or impossible to avoid though you can often get Advantage initially if you get the drop on...

Playing through the latest early access version of Path of Exile 2 and it seems pretty massively improved from the previous one, despite them not adding any new classes or skill gems this time! They revised how a lot of systems work, add Act 4 (which is fun), added some new temporary content to...

Advantage is just 5E style, ie if you have it you roll twice and take the best. And whilst I don't know the exact conditions for handing it out, from a player side it's typically been similar to D&D and other games that use Advantage/Disadvantage. If you've never used it that's a bit rough...

So like to me that's what means it's definitely not a meatgrinder lol. If the number of casualties is way lower than an a sci-fi horror movie across an entire campaign... And one that I'm told is a "megadungeon" (I dunno if this is true, it's just what the DM said) to boot - I carefully avoid...

I disagree, I have to say, re: "meat grinder". I think it's much like CoC here as @MGibster described. In that, in a lot of situations, so long as you actually have guns and get the drop on enemies, you can be extremely effective. Especially if PCs have the stats to support that. It can be...

Right? The West Wing always seemed deeply self-satisfied and bombastic. Now it seems deeply self-satisfied, bombastic, and hopelessly, childishly naïve. Like "should not be allowed out of the house on its own" levels of naïve. Further, it's seemed that way for quite a long time - I don't think...