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But many of us did not play elves and thus the Perception skill was being attentive to the GM's words. Time moved slower, there were less distractions (cellphones) :ROFLMAO:

There is a different sense of accomplishment when the player solves the riddle, discovers the secret door or negotiates a tricky social encounter than just button mashing the Intelligence ability, and Investigation and Persuasion skills. In 1e-2e the idea was players pay attention to the GM as...

Out of interest @ECMO3 having played so long with the earlier editions have you made any houserules for your 5e games that carry some of the 1e-2e thinking? That's what I'm most curious of... I enjoy 5e because of the flexibility in bringing in some of the earlier edition concepts should one...

I tend to think of minions as the 3.5e templates

Star Trek: West Wing you say. So WWE in space?

Not just the mechanics but the entire 4e ethos was ignored because.......stormtroopers or something.

As this point there are too many versions of D&D to make the fanbase settle for one official version.

Yes, but - it is extremely easy to tinker with. You can easily incorporate things from earlier editions and even one's own ideas for how things ought to be.

I can certainly empathise with all that. I'm a fan of opposition schools in magic but there are also many other creative ways to narrow one's focus - some of which others have mentioned in this thread. One could really create a Tome for how to mold the arcane classes, ramp up and down the magic...

What do you have in mind - Would you remove iconic spells such as Magic Missile and Fireball etc? Perhaps tone then down in terms of damage-dealing?

For starters one can remove damage-inflicting cantrips...

I could get on board with this. I ran something similar once for a short-lived campaign for characters around 14-16 years of age - so not yet classed characters but that had 1-2 proficiencies such as a bow or javelin and a tool-like proficiency. There were some GM interpretive loss conditions...

Exactly, player psychology matters....which means the designers are not likely going to make that mistake again - money matters.

I'm struggling to envision this, do you have an idea/example that elaborates some of your thought process?

So designers do whatever and ignore player psychology...how did @Zardnaar and @Scribe feel about 4e...?

Ah you are right, my apologies. That is quite mad to give the troll multiple full turns. That's much too much. I have seen a friend try run a free-form combat where it doesn't necessarily follow the structure completely but wwhat ou're describing takes the cake. Did the table not question the...

Putting aside that you decided to select a campy TV show for your issue with minions you admitted that minions/monks exist in GoT but are ok with it because it visually looks better. Looks better can easily be narrated it better.

There is never a need but I'd dare say almost every table does it and they're likely not aware of it. Some examples of 5e mechanics which can assist directing a particular narrative storylines are Gritty Rests, Low Magic Settings (Restrictions on Magic) , Renown, Loyalty, Honour, Sanity, Healing...

I started with 2e and I consumed the DMG as one does when one is young and obsessed over the hobby :ROFLMAO: but I was too young and so even though I'd read it all I didnt quite understand it and how to apply it correctly. 3e and 4e I didn't do my homework with the DMGs. I looked when needed but...

@Remathilis I think each table determines their own acceptable character loss for campaign or story and players need to find a table that's acceptable to them. And most importantly it's not binary. It's why I've XPed both you and @Lanefan because I can see the value in both style of games. Our...