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This is what I ultimately landed on for my TotalCon (February, Marlborough MA) 4 slot game: ---------- Name: The Wonders of Moonless Vale Every 1000 new moons, the Desolate Vale transforms from an empty wasteland and suddenly blooms with life again while long lost and forgotten structures...

I decided I would run a intro to Daggerheart game at one of the annual regional cons (TotalCon in Marlborough MA). ---------- Name: Auspicious Beginning Every four years, neophyte adventurers converge on the hamlet called Verge at the edge of the ancient, vast, overgrown Forgotten City...

My office secretary had it queued up as soon as I walked in. This Means War.

It's not a KS.

The original question was about how you handle mapping in play, specific to larger dungeon environments.

Haven't they released 4 books in the last two months? FR x2, Stranger Things, and Eberron?

Are they trying for shadow dropping something early in 2026 as they announce the slate maybe? That seems like it would be hard to do with print products. But it feels really weird that there are no announced D&D products for next year.

This might just be my least read OP ever.

The problem with Gygaxian Naturalism is that Gygax did not really understand naturalism. The concept broadly is fine, but we shouldn't expend too much effort in making it make sense. The best we can do is try and embrace fantasy verisimilitude to create challenges that make some sense.

You know it is a fantasy game, right?

Why correct? The players are the ones drawing the map, for their own purposes. If the the GM is going to correct the player maps, just show them the actual map. Which defeats the purpose entirely.

I think handwaving PCs being able to navigate back misses the point of dungeon exploration. If you are going to do that, dispense with fog of war entirely.

Maybe I just have terible sense of direction, but I don't think most people are actually good at remember routes in complex, largely similar environments. my examples of schools and hospitals are based on actual lived experiences. military bases and office buildings, too. At least for me, when...

Nothing is ever a puzzle for the characters in an RPG. It is impossible.

General Question: if you were to run a DB campaign for players new to the game, would you pick the Core Set campaign, or Path of Glory? Why?

I am a land surveyor by trade. I use maps a lot. It is easy to get turned around even when you have one on hand. But really this isn't about realism. it is about making the game fun, and making exploration and the effort the PCs put into it worthwhile. If (general) you don't think mapping is...

You are being pedantic. RPGs are a conversation about everything. Every element of gameplay depends on an "audio narrator." You are singling out mapping, pretending it is different than the rest of play, when it isn't.

Yes. Exactly. You suggested there was no verisimilitude reason to map,and have now proved there is.

Never got turned around in a school or hospital?

Last night I looked at the numbers and stuff, and in the end I don't think trying to break down the domains into a "classless" system will work. Liek you said above, the design is too tightly integrated. That leads to new class design. What classes would be necessary for a Gammaheart game, and...