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What sort of prep and how much would acceptable for you to not consider the GM a storyteller?

Hey, the jianghu needs villains for the martial heroes to defeat, nothing said the players couldn't be those villains.

You invoked your length of participation in the hobby to imply that you were more experienced and thus your view holds more weight. That's literally a variant of the appeal to authority. Perhaps you should take your own advice.

Supernatural/occult stuff of varying stripes is my jam, so I was intrigued by Curseborne when it was first announced, but everything I've seen for it just fell flat for me. A lot of it seemed to be "different for the sake of being different". Goths never left, and, er, about Jolt Cola...

Neither of these really address what I was wondering. When including the original context: @hawkeyefan seemed to imply that any creator-as-GM is going to be focussed on bringing their creations to bare as the primary focus. And that's not the case, surely?

I'm sure there's a way to marry the two, like an "XP for trashing the setting", without dictating how, though it would likely require some stringent phrasing. Not that I'm suggesting you should, of course. Merely me musing a hypothetical.

Coming back to this, I'm curious: does this extend to, say, John Harper running BitD? For example, if both he and I were to run BitD in the exact same manner, and one that appealed to your sensibilities, and all else was equal, does Harper being the creator actually impact it significantly...

I suspected this was what you meant, but wanted to be sure since we clearly diverge in certain views. I don't have a neat binary view/approach on this; it varies by game and campaign. I don't know how familiar you are with V:TM V5, but in case you're not (and for anyone else reading who isn't)...

I'd go with the phylactery idea because relying on a minion to cast raise dead a. requires her to trust said minion, b. requires the minion to be loyal enough to do it, and c. requires that minion to actually be alive and attuned to do so (and we all know what adventurers are like). Assuming...

To echo a previous post in this thread:

I realise this is besides the point of your post, but stuff like that is why I cannot take Baker seriously. That's not a character. It's an American stereotype waiting to happen. Are they working class, middle class, or nobility? Because Britain has a class system that permeates everything in a...

You know, I could have sworn I addressed this in my very first post.

But I consider it less sandbox-y precisely because it's GM-driven. I - as the GM - am injecting it into the game so that tenets and convictions are tested, rather than relying on them occurring naturalistically. Which then goes back to both my view of it as a spectrum and what @Bedrockgames was...

To my mind, this is unrelated to whether something is a sandbox or not. It's a pacing mechanism that is subjective preference.

Grounded also has an arachnophobia mode, that turns spiders into a cute little pair of blobs.

That depends on what precisely you mean by "awareness of gameplay". If you've elaborated on it previously, I've missed it. This thread moves faster than I type. This is an area we differ. I end up with the same amount of attachment/detachment whether I created it or not. Either way, I might end...

This is what I'm doing in V:TM, where those flags are chronicle tenets and character convictions (as opposed to background, heritage, vice, trauma in BitD). Now, I do think that makes it a little less naturalistic, and perhaps a little less sandbox-y as a result, because that's actually GM-created.

Confirmed: ENWorld is actually an elaborate CIA black site and Morrus is actually a directorate.

This can actually be applied to trad-ish sandboxes though. So, for my V:TM sandbox, it could be seen as "play to find out: what will the coterie do to survive the night-to-night unlife of the World of Darkness? And will they maintain their humanity?". Bedrock's wuxia game might be something like...

You really cannot help misrepresenting people, can you? I didn't claim it looked like Narrativist play. I'm saying sandboxes equally ask players to essentially come up with their own "quest". Nah, it's just taking what's written at face value without a dogmatic Narrativist view.