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  1. SableWyvern

    D&D General The Monsters Know What They're Doing ... Are Unsure on 5e24

    Yeah, I think that from a player's perspective as well, if one player is looking to subvert the expectations of a game from the way it was originally pitched, I'd start worrying. Is this player looking to make the game about them? Was the GM's pitch actually a fair representation of what the...
  2. SableWyvern

    Why do you play games other than D&D?

    I'm quite comfortable with the way I've phrased it and, in this specific case, think that treating discovered vs created as meaningfully different to prepped vs emergent is quibbling over semantics. However, I'm not nearly invested enough to be drawn into an extended argument over terminology...
  3. SableWyvern

    Why do you play games other than D&D?

    That's a thing that can happen, but if I feel a dead end would be a problem then I simply won't gate critical information behind a roll that that can fail. That's perfectly easy to do with a traditional system. "Don't ask for a roll if you're not prepared to deal with the consequences of...
  4. SableWyvern

    Why do you play games other than D&D?

    Yes, and it's specifically why I chose it as a contrasting option and was quite specific in my language. As I understand it, it's not actually about solving a mystery - it's about what happens along the way. The truth isn't discovered through play, it's created.
  5. SableWyvern

    Why do you play games other than D&D?

    It might be faint praise if you say it. It's sincere praise from me, as I prefer the traditional approach to investigation. I don't need or want fancy mechanics or approaches like you might find in Gumshoe (as an example).
  6. SableWyvern

    D&D General The Monsters Know What They're Doing ... Are Unsure on 5e24

    To add to my previous comment on Mythras and because you've expressed an interest in BRP: although the idea of emulating D&D rules feels to me like it's missing the point, a lot of people do want to directly emulate D&D, and Mythras Classic Fantasy is designed for just this. Edit: just saw your...
  7. SableWyvern

    D&D General The Monsters Know What They're Doing ... Are Unsure on 5e24

    Mythras would be my go-to based on the requirements described. By default, it leans towards a lower-powered starting point, but I was able to turn a few dials, throw a few more points at starting characters and found the PCs in my Dark Sun game all felt appropriately tough and grizzled, and able...
  8. SableWyvern

    D&D General The Monsters Know What They're Doing ... Are Unsure on 5e24

    I agree with the sentiment here, and its why I try to remember not just to end with, "Your way is also OK" but to start with, "My way is just my personal preference." If I fail to do so, I'm always happy to do what I can to restate my position more inclusively. However, I have hard time...
  9. SableWyvern

    Why do you play games other than D&D?

    More importantly, you'd need to invent rules for determining if the characters' theories are correct or not, since there is no pre-existing truth in this style of play.
  10. SableWyvern

    Why do you play games other than D&D?

    If genre is being used as a fairly high-level term, to refer predominantly to general setting norms (hard sci fi, gritty fantasy, horror, police procedural) without digging into how those things are dealt with in play, then I'd say many games can handle many, most or perhaps even all genres. I'd...
  11. SableWyvern

    Why do you play games other than D&D?

    I've only run a single campaign with HERO, and it was high-powered fantasy. Even with the high power level, it definitely didn't feel like supers to me. The only problem I had with it was the the phased movement system felt quite cumbersome with a large group.
  12. SableWyvern

    D&D General The Monsters Know What They're Doing ... Are Unsure on 5e24

    This phrase got me thinking. When I'm planning a game, I usually start with a concept, settle on a system, then do the work to mesh the two. If I was to end up with "these six core options, but not these two", it would not be because I started with eight and removed two, but because six were...
  13. SableWyvern

    D&D General The Monsters Know What They're Doing ... Are Unsure on 5e24

    If someone is gaming at my table, either I or another member has already vetted that person and is confident they're a good fit for the group, who is not going to be intentionally disruptive or disrespectful. It's not a particularly high bar, and we've had no issues maintaining it. I can't...
  14. SableWyvern

    D&D General The Monsters Know What They're Doing ... Are Unsure on 5e24

    One of the many reasons I love Mythras for Dark Sun is because Mythras makes big things as destructive, dangerous and impervious as they should be. Half giants are actually half giants, with all that entails. The problem with Mythras for Dark Sun is all the obscenely huge things in the setting...
  15. SableWyvern

    Why do you play games other than D&D?

    I don't have much experience with DC Heroes, but a reasonable amount with Ascendant, which uses Hero Points much the same way. I can say I have one player who felt very similarly to you about Hero Points in Ascendant but, as far as I'm aware, they never had that issue with Effort in Godbound. It...
  16. SableWyvern

    D&D General The Monsters Know What They're Doing ... Are Unsure on 5e24

    I might not agree with your perspective (and I wonder if maybe you're trolling just a bit), but I at least respect you for standing by your position.
  17. SableWyvern

    D&D General The Monsters Know What They're Doing ... Are Unsure on 5e24

    That is not what the discussion was at all. @GobHag made it clear they do not care whether or not their character is suitable, and will happily show up with a character they know is not. You've shifted the goal posts constantly throughout this thread, but doing so on behalf of a completely...
  18. SableWyvern

    D&D General The Monsters Know What They're Doing ... Are Unsure on 5e24

    I have no idea, it was just a throw-away line someone used. The relevant part was that @GobHag made it clear they literally don't care what's suitable and would happily turn up with something they know for a fact is not suitable.
  19. SableWyvern

    D&D General The Monsters Know What They're Doing ... Are Unsure on 5e24

    I think a bigger difference is that if you joined a game pitched as an Arctic game, you would happily turn up with a character not suited to an Arctic game and tell the GM that's their problem, not yours; whereas if I agreed to join such a game I would arrive with a suitable character...
  20. SableWyvern

    D&D General The Monsters Know What They're Doing ... Are Unsure on 5e24

    It sounds like you're running pretty open settings in the first place and using common sense to allow concepts that fit. I don't think anyone is saying that is wrong (I'm certainly not), just that there are can also be reasons to curate. I would certainly suggest that it is pretty closed minded...
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