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This does a good job of summing up why I moved away from rolling for stats. It's not that the people who would have less fun if the dice shafted them are bad people or bad TRPGers, it's that they'd be having less fun, and why would I want that?

My current x is set to give substantially better stats than the standard array, but you could obviously set it to anything, based on the sorts of characters you want to see. I kinda wanna see badasses I can push hard, others will have other preferences. I've heard of GMs doing things like what...

Or use some approach that doesn't require rolling.

So, clearly someone has wildly misunderstood the talk about spellcasters here.

No real arguments, but I'm venting just a little rather than crapping in a thread; and I'm not saying what they're talking about is bad, I'm saying it's meaningless--not in the sense that TRPGs are meaningless on a suitable scale, but that I don't think it'd change how people played. (and...

Stats are in post #29. I think the basics of the process are there, too, if they aren't in the OP. I know I never didn't understand what was going on, while it was going on.

Not related to the above: I literally don't see why that putatively awesome thing would matter at all.

This is my experience, as well, which is why I just formalized "pick your own stats," within some (generous) constraints.

When I make characters for fun, I generate parties, and I roll randomly for class, gender, and lineage (to use the ToV term, since that's what I run) using the same table I use for NPCs; but I choose stats. People will want random in different places, so to speak.

When I have considered a system that involved rolling, I have had a rule that if you had more than one 1 in your 4d6, you could reroll those dice once. Seems to be addressing something similar, even if your approach is more generous.

Neither do I, which is why I have constraints on the stat choice/s, so there are trade-offs, same as the other choices you mention.

I did something not included in your list--it's the system I've been using in the 5e/ToV games I've been running for years. Pick your stats, in the range of 6-18. They must be half-even, half-odd, and you can't have three the same. The total bonuses must not be higher than x. Do not apply any...

The players I've been GMing for have managed to be neither of those things. Of course, they haven't managed to be between those things, either.

I don't force any randomness on the players they do not choose, and I do not feel as though the campaigns I've run have been predictable. Then again, the players I've been running for have managed to make characters that are actually distinguishable from each other.

On the one hand, I see what you're saying--there are some kinda obvious best-ish choices, and there are some players who will always make the same ones (Of the ones you've listed, martial/caster hybrid is a pretty narrow choice, IME, it's nowhere near ubiqitous.) On the other hand, I could see...

Depends on why you're wearing it in a thunderstorm.

Or exactly the sort of thing to wear in a thunderstorm.

Yeah, if people need to shuffle around an interchange, zipper-merging is not the correct move.

But zipper-merging is hard!

This is part of how my wife got our EV up to 106 MPH unintentionally. In ECO Mode. Someone just didn't want to let her merge ...