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    D&D General Not the Wicked Witch: Revisiting the Legacy of Lorraine Williams

    Yeah, I ended up stumbling across a used copy of Creative Campaigning at Powell's, and later got it signed by Janelle Jaquays at PRGE (I couldn't find my copy of Quake 2)
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    Did You Back a Million Dollar TTRPG Kickstarter? How's The Game?

    I backed Tales of the Valiant - it looks good, but I haven't had a chance to run it yet.
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    D&D General Not the Wicked Witch: Revisiting the Legacy of Lorraine Williams

    I should clarify my viewpoint about Lorraine Williams a little bit. I intensely dislike her, but it's a dislike at the level I have for Phil Ballmer, or other corporate executives whose actions, while beneficial to their company, were harmful to the industry (and in this instance art form at...
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    D&D General Not the Wicked Witch: Revisiting the Legacy of Lorraine Williams

    The OGL itself was fine - and if TSR hadn't been so litigious it probably would still have come about. Two of the reasons for it to exist were making sure D&D could never die, and helping to encourage third party publishers to make the kind of content that didn't necessarily make a lot of money...
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    D&D General Not the Wicked Witch: Revisiting the Legacy of Lorraine Williams

    Well, I thought I was out, but I do have a slight clarification - there were two TSR vs. Mayfair Games cases. The initial one for the Role Aids line, in 1984, was pre-Williams and the settlement from that case set conditions for which Mayfair could state on the packaging that those products were...
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    D&D General Not the Wicked Witch: Revisiting the Legacy of Lorraine Williams

    Before I bow out myself, one final point about the lawsuits. The lawsuits that TSR filed under Lorraine Williams time as head of the company - particularly the ones against GDW and Mayfair Games, left deep lingering scars on the RPG industry. If those lawsuits had not happened, the OGL would...
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    D&D General Not the Wicked Witch: Revisiting the Legacy of Lorraine Williams

    And the lawsuits are in none of those buckets - that's my very strong objection. Because those happened, and Shannon Appelcline documented those extensively in Designers & Dragons in the entries for New Infinities Productions, GDW, and Mayfair Games. Plus the Cease & Desist letters sent out...
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    D&D General Not the Wicked Witch: Revisiting the Legacy of Lorraine Williams

    I feel like the whole core concept of this thread was to say she wasn't deplorable. She was. She absolutely was. She wasn't as deplorable as Gary was, or certainly not as Kevin Blume was, and that is certainly worth mentioning. But she definitely was deplorable, and the legal tactics TSR engaged...
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    D&D General Not the Wicked Witch: Revisiting the Legacy of Lorraine Williams

    Pulling TSR out of the Blume and Gygax Death Spiral is a laudable act. Singular It doesn't mean she's a laudable person. It doesn't outweigh what came after. Hell, even selling to WotC isn't something I'd consider laudable. It's a smart business decision, but it's also the logical one. It's...
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    D&D General Not the Wicked Witch: Revisiting the Legacy of Lorraine Williams

    Except that's just being good at being a CEO - that doesn't make her worthy of praise. Does it make Kevin Blume and Gary Gygax worthy of more condemnation? Sure. But the complaints about the lawsuits, the mistreatment of creators, etc, don't go away. Even if those policies were perpetuating...
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    D&D General Not the Wicked Witch: Revisiting the Legacy of Lorraine Williams

    In my case, I generally consider Gary, Kevin Blume, and Lorraine Williams to all be terrible for different reasons. I never moved in the circles online where the insults about her appearance and weight were going around, but I did observe the "They Sue Regularly" complaints, including from...
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    D&D General Not the Wicked Witch: Revisiting the Legacy of Lorraine Williams

    This in particular probably plays worse now than it did at the time, especially considering how TSR would go on to treat those originals in the bankruptcy. Also, if the lawsuits against GDW and Mayfair were to happen now from WotC/Hasbro, there'd not only boycotts, there'd be calls for GenCon...
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    D&D General Not the Wicked Witch: Revisiting the Legacy of Lorraine Williams

    Hmm. I'd actually unsubscribed during the multi-month break (during which time I'd assumed the project has podfaded). When notifications came up here that the podcast has resumed, they were worded in such a way that implied that they were paywalled behind a subscription.
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    D&D General Not the Wicked Witch: Revisiting the Legacy of Lorraine Williams

    There is a point you've omitted in the minuses - TSR's litigation under her tenure. There's the lawsuits not only against New Infinites Productions, but also against GDW and against Mayfair Games. There's also the legal threats against members of the fan community, including fansites. Yes...
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    what might have the formative history of RPGs be without D&D? or would it have even happened?

    True, but Arneson's Blackmoor was, basically, a bunch of variably organized house rules to Chainmail on scraps of paper, index cards, and sticky notes that are maybe organized in a binder, and Arneson, from what I've gathered, didn't necessarily feel like organizing it into a commercial product...
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    Amazing finds at thrift stores & used book stores etc?

    I picked up a copy of the original Delta Green at a thrift store once for about $15-20.
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    Dicebreaker closing? Where to get your TTRPG news!

    Hey, do we have a source for Dicebreaker closing, or is this just planning ahead?
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    D&D General Classic Gold Box D&D CRPGs coming to Steam

    Also, they are as close to Rules As Written a game designed for DOS can allow - complete with coinage having weight. (Unfortunately, there isn't really a bank in the games you can use to stash some of your cash in, like Bethesda would later use in Arena & Daggerfall.)
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    Ben Riggs: 'The Golden Age of TTRPGs is Dead'

    My town recently had a FLGS open. Their stock distribution was: a bunch of shelves of Warhammer, A ton more shelves of MTG and Pokémon behind the counter, and one small set of shelves (basically a 1x3 set of Kallax) for RPG books, mostly D&D. The do have table space for play, but they also do...
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    TSR The Dreams in Gary's Basement

    Yeah - I got my copy in the mail just a week or so before Christmas.
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