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I know the saying goes that many players don't bother to actually read the books, but for many of us, the reading of the books is half the enjoyment (ok that's perhaps a bit exaggerated :p). Nevertheless, I am curious about how other players perceive the writing in RPGs, both in terms of rules...

When all is said and done - PF2 will be well served by a new rulebook. I find the current CRB not very good or utalitarian. I have no idea how they should improved, it's a herculean task to make a good rulebook for something like PF2 me thinks, but man last year when we tried PF2 I had to do so...

What an awesome thread @TheSword! I have considered DMing this for my group so many times. We normally play 5e/4e or PF, and while my group aren't quite 3.5-min/max-players I do fear WFRP 4e isn't up their alley character option wise. But this really makes me wanna try it out.

Look if I was a PF2 fan, I would be happy. The CRB is really really badly organized, so I would totally find it a worthwhile investment. That doesn't change that I personally found it a bit distasteful to not disclose their plans earlier than they did. Especially after swaths of PF2 fans was...

This is exactly how I remember their statement as well. “Oh PF2 doesn’t need the OGL we can just pull it out so buy our books”. And then after a sales spike they suddenly put out a 2.5. This. Is. So. Bad. Behaviors. If WotC did this Reddit would explode.

Their PF stuff was definitely more polished. DSP’s 3.5 stuff can be found here: Classes - DSP-d20-SRD

Just wanted to say I really appreciate all the replies in this thread. Love it. Thanks to all of you.

Exactly. There's actually a great video on PunPun: It's all theory and he wasn't meant to be played. And as you mention it requires a very lax interpretation of some rules.

When I first read the 3.5 PHB I was surprised there was no mention of the swift action, but as mentioned above, it came later in 3.5's life cycle. I took a picture of this side bar from my 3.5 Rules Compendium:

Yeah if I squint my eyes just like that, and look at my Tome of Magic and Tome of Battle and PHB2 I can kind of see a new game; a 3.75. I think I would have loved to see WotC rum with that. But again I really like 4e so 🤷🏼‍♂️

I absolutely love D&D history and "archeology". I played AD&D 2nd back in school, and then after a long hiatus in 2018 I returned to the hobby with 5e. I have since bought some 3.5 and 4e stuff so I could see what I have missed (and absolutely fell in love with 4e in the process). There is one...

That is really nice. Good job 👏

From where did you get this?

I always wanted to run GURPS. As a kid I had the 2nd hardback and I loved that book. Loved reading all the complex combat rules and Advantages etc. But I never got to play it. And now it seems a bit "inaccessible". Also whenever I look at GURPS I can only find settings and rules book, but never...

This feels a bit detached from the world. All companies are "greedy". Acting like WotC is special in this regard is strange. I am sure if you look at the companies from which you buy stuff in your daily life, you will find companies being much much more greedy than both WotC and Paizo. Paizo and...

That actually sounds nice. I will remember this if we get back to PF2.

Yes, that could be the case of course. :)

I had a player playing a Warpriest Cleric and he found it to be very very boring and not fun at all. Casters being nurfed is definitely one of the most common PF2 complaints. Personally I find that casters do not tap in the whole 3-action system very creatively. And then there's the whole...

This whole debate very quickly turns into at Bush-like meme: "Either you're with us, or you're against us". Even though I find this to be an interesting and complex topic, I have no interest in engaging in a discussion were that is the base line. I support trans people but I also read HP for my...