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I should reload avowed. i got about 10 hours in before the companions annoyed me to death. Or go back to Outer Worlds 2, but it did not really hook me the first tiem around (after maybe 8 hours).

I really want to try those but alas I do not own a Switch. If only Nintendo released those for PC.

I think that is why you mostly see new adversaries and environments, and campaign frames. The work on classes and domains is HARD.

The point was I was asking for a game with a Skyrim like play loop: pick a direction toward a marker on the map, walk that way and explore, shoot some bandits or fight a monster or whatever, see a little story painted in campsites and skeletons, repeat.

That's a little extreme, don't you think?

YES. "Balancing" Tolkienesque elves against humans, hobbits, whatever is a mistake. They are intentionally superhuman. Both?

There are some folks using it as a synonym for "linear." For the record, i agree with you that it has a bad reputation, which is why I use "rollercoaster" when I am talking about a highly linear, forward driven adventure structure that is also fun.

Oh, I thought you had played it and that is why you were suggesting it.

There are folks in this very thread not using it that way.

I think 3 books could pretty much cover the SW Universe, assuming you were given tools to easily model things not in the books. Games don't actually need the supplement treadmill.

I am not sure I understand your confusion. The system insentivies, not demands. If some theoretical player decides to nerf themselves by not picking up the acid splash spellbook because they think of themselves as a barbarian, well that's player agency I guess.

That's part of the point: there is no singular definition.

Isn't it full of mandatory cut scenes and mandatory slow-ass subsystems like hunting and making camp and stuff?

Here's that definition thing again. If you only use "railroad" pejoratively, then sure.

I don't think having freedom to solve situations creatively makes a linear game not linear.

I played the original many moons ago. (Or, first one I guess, because wasn't there another Red Dead game before Redemption? Anyway...)

I do agree that folks will reforge DH into many things (I am running a aetherpunk supers game now and making notes about what I would do to turn DH into a legit supers game). But it is going to require a lot of work. Classes and Domains and deply interconnected mechanics, and folks who think...

This is where the "which source material" question really matters. In the OT, Vader WAS more powerful than everyone else, and Luke, by the end, went toe to toe with him. You can't be true to that source material without embracing jedi as special and more powerful.

I am still having trouble finding the right game. I need something with a short, fun play loop that is also wide open. My personal Platonic Ideal here is Skyrim/Fallout4, but i have played them both to death. I was very sad that Starfield was not that same experience, and as much as Elden Ring...

Who cares? I don't mean that to threadcrap. I'm serious. What difference does it make to YOU how many "fans" D&D "has"? I mean, if you are arguing one way or the other, the answer must matter to you, right? For my part, only one thing matters: more active customers (whatever portion of the...