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I voted not impressed one way or another. Though my vote is probably not fair. I was late to the game as far as OD&D was concerned. I'd already being playing AD&D1E. When invited to play "D&D" nobody mentioned the edition, and as a kid I was confused at the time by why everything was so...

Yeah, this at all unreasonable to expect. I think we can already point to games which can be "complex" but a new player can run a relatively simple character and easily work with support from other players and the GM. I think a perfect system would easily allow one person to be neck deep in...

I want a game that isn't afraid to make demands on the players and assumes that people who want to play it are both smart and dedicated to making the experience fun rather than looking to exploit every imperfection. The game doesn't need to worry about being easy to run, because it is perfectly...

For starters, the +/- 10 saves and the whole 4 tiers of success doesn't work nearly as well. That is two which I did already say. The way HP and damage dealing scales on both sides of the table is a bit different and again reflects a difference in design. In 5E goblins can hit a high level...

Well, I guess now we know. I am kinda disappointed and kinda not surprised. I really wanted to see something cool salvage this game for me. I tried myself and came up with nothing that was satisfactory. But I was holding out hope that they had some amazing insight. Yeah, doesn't seem we are...

I agree with you. But I also strongly believe that it isn't as simple as saying "bounded accuracy". I don't think anyone would describe PF2E RAW as bounded accuracy. Taking a game that isn't bounded accuracy and simply subtracting a factor across the board doesn't make it one. It may make the...

Mathematically this is true. Producing a quality gaming result is another matter altogether. PF2E is designed from the ground up with the presumption of this +level factor built in. Yes, you get D20+X compared to DC = Y and you can do the math. But (IMO) a good storytelling mechanical...

The difference between "out of stock" vs 3rd party, IME, is "out of stock" means you can't buy it at all. But the system doesn't seem to be perfectly consistent. Paizo did say that they would continue to print and sell the 1E pocketbooks as long as their was demand. I agree that this seems...

Time will tell

I decided to go back and look at the post in question. Here are some things I said: "And I really want to stress that I have no dispute in the slightest with your table experience. PF2E is perfect for some people and it is well designed for delivering that. Full stop. You may very well have...

YOUR WORDS were: "I have not seen anything about PF2 that would antithetical to what you think RPGs are about. " (emphasis mine). And that phrasing is completely consistent with the prior context. Nowhere have I suggested that my opinions apply to the "the hobby". And you can find me...

Do you mean such as saying that the opinion of someone else is can't exist unless that person is refusing to be open minded? Or do you mean such as saying "the people who LOVE PF2E will continue to love PF2E. I have never been critical of loving PF2E. I was never critical of loving 4E. I...

Where did I say it was antithetical to the wider hobby? I do believe that the wider reception is, to some degree, inhibited by the design elements that are of issue to me. But if you go back and read my posts you will see me repeatedly agreeing that PF2E is GOLDEN for some players and I think...

Noted. I have. Do you mean as a hobby or as top choices for my personal table?

Do you realize that you jumped here from saying it is not too far off from a mechanical fix to listing things that have pretty much nothing to do with mechanics? Feats and D20s touch it in the most tangential way, but just ever so slightly. Yes, this is mechanics. But just saying that you...

Victim? I don't know about victim here. I have plenty of great games to play. And, truthfully, the "set aside" does apply far more strongly to the "history" wherein there were multiple statements to the effect that dissatisfied fans were simply "not needed". But, that said, I first do...

FWIW, you are seeing a preview of the future. Ignore the fans who were set aside now and blame them later.

4E is a pretty good object lesson. But, again you are anointing yourself with the authority to speak for my knowledge. If you have to deal with facts, your position collapses. If you can make up things about other people as you go along then you can pretend to still have a point. If you...