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It's cool. I'd say it has EVERYTHING to do with actual play. But I guess that is a YMMV kinda thing. As I also said, the game brings the mechanics and the players bring the story. So if the mechanics don't "feel right" then they are not fun. They don't feel right.

I played with this some because there are things about PF2E I do really like. But the system is built with that +level concept baked into the foundation. Yes, it is very easy to simply apply a -level to everything, canceling out the +level effect. And you will get modifiers and targets. In...

IMO multiple attempts to ask direct questions have been met with repeated with changing of the subject and other evasions. I'm 100% cool with difference of opinion. And I believe that I've stated multiple time that I respect that PF2E serves a preference. But in turn I've received claims...

I think this goes a little to far. But, yeah, it is close enough. And I'll plead guilty to it. To me that is all a game brings to the table - the "underlying logic". People at the table bring the story and emotions. I also strongly believe that these issues emerge more and more as people...

I don't think you can show where I directly insulted anyone as I was directly insulted. It does get frustrating when someone keeps making the same claim while repeatedly refusing to respond to questions that are raised. But I didn't stoop to simply calling someone a jerk or arrogant in place...

Really? Funny how you can't find anything on the other side to complain about. You "laughed" at my reply, but had nothing to say when he literally insulted me in lieu of any other response. It seems a tiny bit biased. Call me a jerk all you want. I'll stay with logic (your baseless denial...

Your unbiased opinion is noted. Sorry that being logical and expecting people to back up their claims is a jerk move to you. And I'm not the one throwing insults.

OK, you did say "bad english" Last call for an effort at responding to my actual point.

You made no such statement. Edit: Not that it matters. This is just another moving of goal posts.

I've seen the video. If it answered my questions then you would be well primed to put me in my place. You can't do it.

Glad to know that you are an example of coherence. Seriously. How can you possibly not be embarressed over such a blantant and unfounded double standard?

1) I'd be totally on board with revising PF1 to adjust this. 2) There are differing rates of progress for differing classes in PF1. The flaw that everything paces in the same tight range does not exist. the idea that wizards progress at dodging blows (and all wizards everywhere are obliged...

You said it prevents dominance and you said it creates dominance. That aside, you are again moving the goal posts. I agree that all classes get various rider abilities as they progress through the tiers. But the MATH was the point of conversation. Thge MATH is the point of failure that is...

You are wrong and your continued refusal to back up your claims shows it. I know what I'm talking about and the math is there. Simply proclaiming it to not be does nothing. And it was your words that praised PF2 for removing the dominance. Where have I denied any flaws in PF1? This is...

As a completely separate point I have two replies to this. First, if you have good players who want a good story, this simply is not an issue. I think you can see that if narrative is important, then turning around and using a strong narrative based system and then choosing to make...

I do like a huge number of options. But hopefully my post above sheds some light on the point. The PF1E core alone up against PF2E with a stack of yet to be released expansions would still be an overwhelming victory for PF1E.

Well, obviously I have presented critical comments which you, as a major supporter, remain incapable of responding to and continue to attempt to change the subject away from. I've played many many games over the years. I know what I like and what I don't. I've been critical of games before that...

ok personal insults is all you got That tells the story

Please don't start trying to tell me I don't know what I'm talking about. If you can counter my points about flaws in the game then do that. So far you have demonstrated that you are unable.

define "horribly". It was a "New York Times" best seller. SUCCESS It lost fan base steadily. I think that the overall life-cycle of 4E is fairly called horrible by any reasonable standard of D&D brand analysis. As to PF1E. Shrug. Yes, it is D&D3X. They were quite proud of that. I...