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I don't think anyone has said any different? As I understand it the various suspects in BB are all meant to have a plausible means and motive to have committed the murder? (Even if the PCs have to work to find that out.) I don't believe BB play to revolve around approaching random strangers and...

It feels like Mike Pondsmith's intention in Cyberpunk 2020 was for the PCs to have some sort of social conscience or ethical code and to be prepared to go to the mat for that. Almost like 'yeah they're hard-bitten mercs but they are a little bit on the side of the resistance too'. I'm not sure...

It's maybe worth saying that in real life mysteries are not created. They exist but they have not been authored. Being authored means that they are intended to be solvable and the clues to that solution exist within possible reach. Real life mysteries and investigations are not like that, and...

OK. Micah's approach (as I understand it): the PCs think they've figured out who did it. The culprit is arrested. The PCs will never know for sure if they were right. Brindlewood Bay (as I understand it): the PCs think they've figured out who did it. The culprit is arrested. The PCs will...

If you want to be really concerned watch Look Who's Back.

So the player characters think they've solved it, they give the evidence to the authorities (which by the way is probably a disclosure nightmare, good luck getting a conviction), and the person is taken away to be arrested. In your hypothetical game, the PCs could be wrong. They might have...

How does that work? You're playing a traditional sort of investigative game, the players analyse the clues and think they've found a solution, then what? They apprehend the person they believe to be the murderer and they say nothing? No further evidence is found? How do the players know they...

All good, if I've understood you correctly that's the point I'm trying to make. 'Solving the GM's puzzle' may feel subjectively like you would if you were conducting an investigation in real life, but it's actually different.

I also think, as a real life investigator, that 'putting together a half-cocked theory that matches most of the available data, and seeing if it sticks' is very close to How Things Actually Work. Much closer than 'putting all the pieces together perfectly and getting external confirmation that...

I agree that 'solving the GM's puzzle' and 'investigating a real life murder' are very different things, for all the reasons you describe. But I can see how they might feel similar to some people. I can see how it would have a representational effect so that the GM's puzzle acts as a sort of...

Best title, definitely!

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I think part of what makes something a heartbreaker is that they are derivative of D&D unconsciously. They didn't see the wider possibilities. Games like 13th Age, Pathfinder, Dungeon World, OSR, all knowingly try to emulate and build on D&D's tropes. They aren't trying to be 'not D&D' they are...

Tortles is serious bisness!

Absolutely not. People can be wrong. I've seen it used deliberately loosely, like describing one's own project as a heartbreaker. This isn't rejecting the meaning of the term so much as it is being postmodern. I don't think a heartbreaker necessarily has to be "D&D but _', it's just that D&D...

Nice way of putting it, this is what I want also.

I don't think any of these are heartbreakers, either artistically or commercially.

Even then it wouldn't be 'some rando'. It would be someone I already knew, or at least that someone else in the group knew or could vouch for. Our group has been pretty static for 25 years. If I am playing an RPG with someone then by definition they are someone whose ideas I am interested in...