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And it's going to bomb. Like get it at half-off books in a few months bomb. Setting fans want more than just reheated classic adventure for the 50th time, new fans don't want an adventure with a bunch of fiddily species restrictions and a linear plot. You want to release Dragonlance properly...

Yes, the "play the novels" (complete with pre gens) was big then, but I question how well that will fly now. That was one of the problems. The other problem people had was that as a setting primer, it was lousy. Nothing on the minotaurs or other unique DL species other than kender. No unique...

Actually, if after a year of teasing Dark Sun, they need to do a LOT better than a picture on the corner of the road map and a character in a mobile game. If people are going to spend half the year expecting Dark Sun and they get reheated Dragonlance adventures, it's going to go over like a wet...

I'm just saying they tried the module with barely any world lore method once. Why would they want to do that again and offer even LESS (recycled modules and less PC content) for the follow up? I'm not a DL fan, but if I was I'd be so insulted by the lack of effort put on it, I'd wait until my...

I guess if you consider Dragonlance another generic kitchen sink akin to Greyhawk or the Realms, you'd be right. But there wasn't a lot of love for how bare bones Dragon Queen was when it came to fleshing out Krynn, so I don't imagine WotC is apt to want to do that again but even lazier.

How much is Idle Champions even in the WotC zeitgeist? I played it a long time ago and promptly forgot it existed until this thread. Like the Neverwinter MMO, it feels like the kinda thing WotC let's exist to generate passive income rather than a showcase of their brand IP synergy.

I'll agree that they don't test species, feats and backgrounds (usually). But they have on subclasses and classes. And the only subclasses we have are Dark Sun, three mystic ones and a handful of reprints. I'm going out on a limb to say IF it's NOT Dark Sun, it's not anything that is currently...

I'll be honest. If Champions isn't about Dark Sun, it's going to be a product that has no player options since there isn't enough stuff in the UA pipeline to fill a player book. And I don't imagine they would hold off announcing another adventure anthology for buzz.

Exactly. Dark Sun is about blood and death and war crimes and genocide and killing Dragon Kings to take their place as an even crueler tyrant. It's about PVP and treating consent forms as adventure checklists. Where a party will TPK themselves over a +1 sword. They will sell you the whole...

Piggybacking off this, the reason they are holding off on announcing DS currently is that they are going to make it a BIG DEAL kind of announcement. It's introducing the 15th official class into the game. They are bringing back the last major Classic setting. And I think they a.) want this to be...

The colors come with definitions, and I don't remember the wording. Red means "I don't like this, please rethink it". Green means "go ahead as is", yellow means "on the right track, but I have some reservations". Originally, red and green didn't allow commentary, but that got changed quickly...

It doesn't matter. Every attempt to correct 5e ends up with people recreating 3e, 4e, or TSR-era D&D. A wildly different 6e will just create a new faction of people demanding that WotC make 7e look more like 5e.

It's a stoplight. Red means no. Green means yes. Yellow means yes, but...

I kinda feel the opposite now. UA is a taste test and they want to know if the soup needs more garlic, not whether or not we want soup or pizza. I don't, for example, really think that they would abandon the psion again, but even if it has low-balled beyond salvagabilty, I don't think we would...

I'm sure they are moreso. And I feel it useful yet again that we are not always given the full picture. People screamed and cried about Purple Dragon Knights having purple dragons, bemoaned the betrayal of The Sacred Texts (aka some obscure 2e sourcebook) and threw all their toys out of the pram...

🙄 UA is a vibes check. The problem is that no one knows what the vibes are unless WotC tells us. Everyone can point to times when the audience deep sixed an idea (purple dragon knight) and then can point to examples where the community was absolutely certain something would never see the light...

TO YOU. You have not articulated any proof that the apocalypse subclasses were given negative reviews other than the whining of people on the Internet. WotC has not said any part of the UA was negatively down voted and certainly not enough to pause production on the product. And as well all...

Yes. Now answer my question.

I agree on Dark Sun this year. I'm ambivalent on Dragonlance, but it is possible that it comes at some point in 27.

To you. Got any proof of feedback from WotC that there was widespread dissatisfaction?