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I suspect the group you describe would be quick to go on an adventure if the plot hook was "find the macguffin or your town gets destroyed." Either that, or the adventure becomes them surviving/avenging their town's destruction.

Correct. My example was a program which manipulates data sets not available to the programmer, since I wanted to make an analogy to a gen AI interface which processes prompts entered by end users (as opposed to the separate software programmers use to create their AI's underlying base model from...

You claim the outputs of a program are created by its programmers. The gen AI software which outputs an image is a program. Therefore, an image created by gen AI software is created by the AI’s programmers. Since the AI’s programmers create the images the AI produces, per your claim, an artist...

I’d say it isn't that straightforward. If one counts the series of commands entered by an end user of Photoshop as a data set, I'd argue Photoshop is a program which ingests a data set and outputs a visualization, but I'd be hard-pressed to say the programmer who created Photoshop is solely...

So which of your two, contradictory arguments should I believe? Is a program's output created by the programmer, because the program was created to produce all possible outputs based on all possible inputs? Or is a program's output created by the end user, because the end user produced the...

I provided a concrete example supporting my claim, which you left out when quoting me. If you disagree with my example, I'd be genuinely curious to hear your argument. I didn't think it was controversial to say a programmer who creates a web browser isn't the creator of all websites their...

The program produces the output you see on your screen. The programmer doesn't necessarily produce any of it. You claimed to be the equivalent of a programmer. But a programmer doesn't create the output produced by their program unless they also created all the input the program requires when...

"The killer seems to have stolen one of the anti-protons." "At least they didn't steal any of the quarks. That could have gotten... a little strange." 😎 CSI: CERN

A computer programmer's end goal isn't to "direct the computer tool through... lines of language." A computer programmer's end goal is to create a program (the "lines of language" you reference). Any "directing the computer" a programmer does while creating their program is incidental, and is...

That image is a collaborative work created by you plus all the artists whose contributions to the AI's training data informed the way the AI generated the image. It's the same as if I write a program using a software library as a tool. The resulting program is a collaborative work created by...

The creators of an AI image are every human being who contributed training data or prompts which, together, generated that image, the same way the creators of a collage I produce by splicing together two pre-existing images are myself and the artists who created the two pre-existing images. And...

There have been multiple times in my life when I've wanted to see a physical reference image for something I can picture in my head, and I've found a perfect match by conducting iterative Google image searches using carefully-worded search terms. Not just, "That image I found is good enough,"...

If you honestly believe a musician following sheet music is just an instructions processor, no different than a mindless robot, then I see no point in continuing this conversation. Have a nice day.

A prompt engineer doesn't create pixels any more than a recipe writer creates food. A prompt engineer creates prompts. Any pixels an AI creates based on a prompt one feeds into it are created by software with no human creative intent, not by the prompt writer. Likewise, if someone in the future...

That may not be a mistake. Per page 18 of the Grand History of the Realms, ancient Imaskar was founded by a splinter tribe of the ancient Durpari. As direct descendants of Durpari, the Imaskari likely inherited some Durpari names.

True. There's no point declaring, "I won't consume artwork if it looks like it was created using generative AI." A better metric would be, "I won't pay for artwork unless the seller provides a written guarantee no perceivable part of the work was created using generative AI." In that case...

A while back, I played a changeling warlock. I would alter the description of their eldritch blasts to thematically match whatever appearance they had at the moment.

That's certainly a fair assumption. Apology accepted and no hard feelings.

I wouldn't have made a post comparing the privacy risks of the gen AI services discussed in this thread to the privacy risks of other types of AI applications if I didn't understand what gen AI was. But thanks for clarifying what gen AI is for other posters who weren't aware of the difference.

I don't use gen AI, so China won't be getting any user data from me if they reverse engineer Silicon Valley's gen AI services. I'd be much more interested in running open source AI locally for non-generative purposes. In theory, that wouldn't require me interacting with either China or Silicon...