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    D&D General How Much D&D Stuff Is There Anyway? Part 4: Novels

    The authors had no real control over that kind of thing. As you figured, it would have been decided at the department head and company marketing level, possibly with input from Random House.
  2. J

    D&D General How Much D&D Stuff Is There Anyway? Part 4: Novels

    Absolutely. All important points. And before the TSR purchase, WotC had tried fiction both internally and as a license, with results that were not, in the end, satisfactory. So they were justifiably wary of fiction. This on top of the seismic changes to book sales occuring via Amazon in the late...
  3. J

    D&D General How Much D&D Stuff Is There Anyway? Part 4: Novels

    Ah, okay. Yup. That's a totally legit gripe. The company had included color maps in some paperbacks to mark them as "prestige" releases. The first edition of Prince of Lies might have been the first. And it would have made sense to include the color map in both the HC and the paperback. Just...
  4. J

    D&D General How Much D&D Stuff Is There Anyway? Part 4: Novels

    @Echohawk lots of great information here! Thanks for quantifying all the numbers, too. Great stuff. I'll read through again when I get some time, but a couple side notes: * There's a 2006 sequel to Quag Keep, Return to Quag Keep, by Norton and TSR stalwart Jean Rabe. It gets as close to the...
  5. J

    D&D General How Much D&D Stuff Is There Anyway? Part 4: Novels

    No. The deal meant TSR was getting paid on ship rather than on sale for everything, not just fiction. The company overproduced and overshipped some products, including fiction, but the problem was far bigger with games than fiction. Fiction has a much longer shelf life and the copies were far...
  6. J

    D&D General How Much D&D Stuff Is There Anyway? Part 4: Novels

    Hasbro also has limited experience with the book trade, which operates on different rules than the sale channels they are used to. Hasbro has tended to license comics and books, rather than publish them themselves, because you need specialists in sales and marketing to handle those channels, in...
  7. J

    D&D General How Much D&D Stuff Is There Anyway? Part 4: Novels

    Just to be clear, this is standard book industry practice with potentially successful releases--hardcover first, then paperback. TSR did not invent it.
  8. J

    D&D General How Much D&D Stuff Is There Anyway? Part 4: Novels

    That's not true. What killed the company was the debt TSR accrued with Random House through unwise use of an advance payment clause and then blowing up their distribution deal. Ben Riggs covers this in Slaying the Dragon.
  9. J

    Dungeons & Dragons Releases New Unearthed Arcana Subclasses, Strongly Hinting at Dark Sun

    Thank you! The charts are great and Ben did terrific work putting them together, but often they are better understood with more context. The returns for the Dark Sun novels, for example, were triggered by TSR ending their distribution deal with Random House and then WotC declaring the books out...
  10. J

    Dungeons & Dragons Releases New Unearthed Arcana Subclasses, Strongly Hinting at Dark Sun

    I don't recall working from a calendar or having to create one in editing because of obvious inconsistencies. If those detailed notes existed, Troy would have been the one to put them together for his own use. I had already edited his novels Waterdeep, Dragonwall, and Parched Sea, and with the...
  11. J

    Dungeons & Dragons Releases New Unearthed Arcana Subclasses, Strongly Hinting at Dark Sun

    The head of Books after late 92 was not terribly interested in coordinating with Games, and at least some of the authors he brought in for the fiction were not gamers at all (and were not expected to become at least reasonably conversant in the games, as had been the norm before that with lines...
  12. J

    Dungeons & Dragons Releases New Unearthed Arcana Subclasses, Strongly Hinting at Dark Sun

    The plan from the start with Dark Sun was for the RPG and fiction content to be related. Mary Kirchoff, then head of the Book Department, was part of the initial Dark Sun team along with Brom, Tim, and Troy, and she was instrumental to that coordinated vision. Mary sometimes gets left out or...
  13. J

    Dungeons & Dragons Releases New Unearthed Arcana Subclasses, Strongly Hinting at Dark Sun

    Yes, I worked in the Book Department from 1988 to 1994 and was at one time series editor for both the Ravenloft and Realms fiction lines. I was also the go-to for RPG–fiction crossover projects, which was one reason why I got recruited to the Dark Sun team early on, immediately after Mary...
  14. J

    Dungeons & Dragons Releases New Unearthed Arcana Subclasses, Strongly Hinting at Dark Sun

    That's only true if you take the most cynical approach possible and the products do not stand alone, if you need to buy the fiction to enjoy the games and so on. In the case of Dark Sun and the other cross-media metaplot efforts at TSR, that was simply not the case. The novels stood alone. You...
  15. J

    Green Ronin Crowdfunding Legal Defense Fund In Fight Against Diamond Distrubutors

    And yet still far more qualified, through decades of direct experience, to speak to any part of this topic than you and to see where your hot takes are empty and cruel.
  16. J

    Green Ronin Crowdfunding Legal Defense Fund In Fight Against Diamond Distrubutors

    No, I don't. I do, however, regularly work with contracts in the tabletop industry, as well as with lawyers and agents. Just negotiated a successful license extension for a publisher with Disney. I wrote many of the agreements (creator contracts, licenses, translation agreements) several...
  17. J

    Green Ronin Crowdfunding Legal Defense Fund In Fight Against Diamond Distrubutors

    You have a lot of hot takes that turn out to be just hot takes. You claim bankruptcies are calm and orderly, when anyone who has worked in legal circles knows that's not true. You can even look at the coverage of bankruptcies in the business press to know that's not true, even before you get to...
  18. J

    Green Ronin Crowdfunding Legal Defense Fund In Fight Against Diamond Distrubutors

    So you have big feelings about the contracts and bankruptcies, along with the other hot takes you have offered about the way these businesses run. Got it.
  19. J

    Green Ronin Crowdfunding Legal Defense Fund In Fight Against Diamond Distrubutors

    You didn't answer the question about your legal background. Are you a practicing lawyer?
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