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True, hadn't thought of it that way

Umm, it would be kinda hard to notice you setting for a charge with a spear, seeing as, IMO, you must plant the blunt end into/onto the ground, and that is very noticable, I would think. EDIT: emphisys mine

True dat!!

And just how many fireworks have you seen that turn into a smoking mountain and dragon and zoom over your head back and forth and explode????

I'll be in the party with 2 fighters a thief and a Brbarian, bacause we have a MUCH better chance to actually SURVIVE to 20th level than the other party.

Or have the player whos ancestral land have a dream that his father was reincarnated as a pig(or sheep), and that he killed him by stuffing him down a long corridore, and the god stands before him saying "I CURSE YOU TO NEVER GET BACK THAT WHICH WAS RIGHTFULLY YOURS" :]

umm Then as they walk to the next dungeon sheep in tow, a figure stride towards them wuth a scicle and in leather saying, "DEFILERS, PREPARE TO DIE" ansd casting some high level nasty spell.

Thanks, I was wondering how that worked.

Question... So, if my W/S reseaerched a spell, let's say, Steam Roll (ie it rolls along an axis and does 1d8/ levle(max of 9d8) crushing damage to any creature that it rolls over reflex save for 1/2 dmg, 7th or 8th level spell) I can't according to the RAW cast the spell because it isn't in my...

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Kewl, what game is your sig from, I dont recognize it.

Thanks Thanks for all the great ideas, I'll use most of them at some point I'm, sure. :]

Quick question about starting an adventure. I'm gonna be starting a game soon, and was wondering how DMs out there got their groups together(ie the characters not the players). Grew up in the same town, joined a guild, hired by NPC noble. Need some ideas, I have a few, but have used them...

Yers, but do you really think a 4th level fighter should have a chance?? against a 20th level wizard??

As someone who used to be in your camp(ie i agreed with you, and I see your POV). Lokk at it this way. of the base races fighter LVL4 attack bonus = BAB+4, Str+2 to 4, and Magic weapon 0-+2 = +6 to +10 Mage LVL20 AC of Image = BASE10, Size +1 to 0, dex +0 to +8(with items) = 10 to 19...

Hehe... :heh: :o Umm, I was starting a vehement response to this, and I was looking stuff up, and after careful concideration, I now agree, cleave can't be used against figments. BC, at 4th level a fighter can get great cleave, and I did some figuring, and a fighter 4th level would get about...

And it isn't an assumption that they do?? they CAN be touched, doesn't nessicarrily mean that they have resistance, and if they do how much. In a magical society/world?? I would say that they would cover the gammit of what a fighter is likley to run into in the big bad world, not just the...

You mean like incorperal(sp?) undead?? so by your thinking if I kill a shadow with no resistance and it disapears when I kill it I dont get a cleave. By using the argument that it's not blowthrough and is a reaction to dropping something: A fighter works for weeks and months to "react" to...

Lets see what the SRD says... EMPHASIS MINE. So, if I deal enough damage to make it drop, which, accordig to the spell description is just if an attack strikes. Hence I have done enough damage to make the image drop . So, using just RAW, cleave should work against mirror image because you...

The point I'm making is that the "intended" target is the Wizard(ie a creature) not the image, thats just what you hit. So cleave should work, because the intended target is the creature(ie wizard), not the image.