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KarinsDad you will never convense any of these people that A + B = C and D + F = G and then saying this means C = G is true. They dont see how false this statment is. I agree with you though I explained further up how I would allow the possibility of energy damage to be transfered they do not...

If thats the case then if I had an energy sword and was having trouble hitting a target I would just start making attacks to hit their armor not bypass it. I'm sure you can see the slippery slope that poses. And its a pretty simple you go what AC did you hit. Play says X. DM goes ok you miss...

Basicly what I was implying if you read up a few posts in mine, baring any bad spelling should come across like this. Though leaving the option open to deal the damage if the attack roll actually would have been a hit thru the armor. Reason being that to preform the trip you give up your...

The reason the whip shouldnt deal extra damage on first glance is the fact that if you have a flaming longsword you cannot just make a touch attack with the weapon basicly trying to bypass armor to deal damage. IMO you have to roll high enough to "Hit" thru armor, magics and skill to beable to...