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Any other edition and it would have just been the fighter and the mugger standing there trading blows. You could use the scenery or try another action like in 3e or previous editions. 4E gave out more options - it didn't take any away - and a boring fight is going to be a boring fight.

The question wasn't asked, but sunshadow21 brought in Paizo as a comparison in post #60 (D'Karr answered better than I could) I felt there was unfair bias against WOTC in his post when Paizo is essentially doing the same thing. When you look at the latest errata document (a whopping 140 pages)...

You're right, I should have checked the Paizo website. My post was in response to Sunshadow21's post (I guess I forgot to quote it) and contained no intention of snark whatsoever. What I don't understand is why WOTC is getting slammed for 'large errata' when Paizo are doing the same thing, in...

Are the changes to problematic rules in Pathfinder material made in later print runs or future splat books? Either way it's asking for the player to pay more money rather than download a free (but poorly presented) pdf. It kind of reminds me of running with 1st and 2nd Edition DMs with binders...

Errata is fine. Look at past options: writing in to Sage Advice for clarification and waiting for Dragon to come out, re-releasing 3.0 as 3.5 over a few fixes, or providing broken material to sidestep issues (2Es Player's Option). Errata is the lesser of all evils.

4E did go off the rails in regards to previous edition lore, but to me it was something that had to be done. Plus a lot of the material in previous editions could be contradictory or murky eg. What was Vecna's mentor? Is it called Beastlands or Happy Hunting Grounds? Where is Tharizdun currently...

I disagree on this point - Draegloths are hideous, sterile (not entirely sure - think it is mentioned in the 3.0 FR book, only have Drow of the Underdark on hand ATM) and among the highest ranking members of a house. Also, a yochlol's natural form is terrifying. Consistency isn't really there...

I've been looking over the Pathfinder SRD over the past week, and I'm beginning to wonder why feats (more specifically martial feats) can't be changed at the end of the day/adventure. If martial feats were treated the same way as dailies/Vancian slots would it be particularly game breaking...

What about just using the Backgrounds? Drop the Themes, they give the wizard the at will powers, and the fighter the 'damage on a miss' reaper power but each of the backgrounds looks like something out of WHFRP or the 2E non-weapon proficiency system. It actually looks pretty old school and...

When the wizard knows why it's because he's either broken the 4th wall or is using a magic system that doesn't incorporate the vancian system. I want to quote this because it shows that in the game we are all willing to suspend disbelief on some mechanics that don't make sense while arguing...

I wanted to address this first. I apologize if I offended you, Rogue Agent, or anyone who holds to this side of the discussion. It was not my intention to offend anyone, and please believe me when I say that I look over my posts several times before submitting them to remove anything that I...

Why do people keep saying these things when caster dailies are just as dissociated as fighter dailies? The only answers that have been given are "It's magic" or "It's how it has always been" Edit: I've never been convinced by the essays on dissociated mechanics at the Alexandrian, especially...

I've read the playtest a few times over now, and I understand the fighter presented is the "basic" fighter, I also posted my thoughts comparing the "basic" fighter throughout the editions for comparison in the playtest fighter thread The playtest fighter was always going to be controversial, and...

A grid affects the presence of regaining hp and fighter dailies vs. regaining spells? Is this all the designers needed to do? remove the grid and you're happy? My point still stands, why do we give melee classes the short end of the stick?

How dare you sir?!? Infringe on my gaming style! Calling it "badwrongfun", you are ruining my ... I can't go on, my sarcasm fuse has blown. Shidaku, you are right I made this thread because I see people arguing against players regaining all hp after a long rest (important for melee characters)...

If we're going back to the roots of D&D we need to go in the deep end, feet first! Spells take 10 x spell level minutes to memorize, this is not concurrent with a resting time of 8 hours during which nothing more strenuous than 2 hours of being the lookout can be taken. Attacked by wandering...

Weapon proficiency, armor proficiency, good hp, +2 to damage, strength mod. damage on a miss, 2 action points per day at second level, and cleave at third level. Even for the most basic of the classes this is really poor 1st/2nd edition fighters got the best saves, (not possible now due to the...

My bad, when I saw ninja i jumped at the class in complete adventurer. But there is still some merit to what I brought up. When 2E came out people were upset that the cavalier, monk, assassin, and barbarian were not covered in the PHB, and to dismiss an entire edition on first impression to me...

There's no way the 3 4E core books on release could contain the info to match 2 PHBs, 7 official splat books, 3 3.5 monstrous manuals, the "Races of ..." books, and whatever else campaign material was used for peoples 3.5E games. That's impossible

Some people here have had the restrictions of previous editions in their game and ignored it, they had fun and there were no problems. A lot of gamers would see the restrictions proposed here in 5E and have a problem. If you end up ignoring the restrictions some of the time why not make it...