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You're also missing the Undying Light Warlock (and the other stuff from that unearthed arcana) :) *edit* And the aasimar from the DMG

Almost all the guides were ported over from the WotC forums by one user and really aren't actively maintained.

You don't need to take it right away though - you can take it later in the build. :)

True, true - I always forget this is an option ... I think mostly because I don't like playing clerics. :p I'm not sure if 1 level of cleric is more optimal (no delayed spell slot progression, proficiencies/useful abilities, etc), or 2 levels of fighter for action surge.

Eh, armor is so easy to get. * Mage Armor - better than any light armor (or draconic sorcerer gives similar) * Start with a level of fighter - constitution save, more hit points, all armors + shields + weapons, health regen, AND a fighting style (which could even just be +AC). Extra spells, on...

Straight barbarian has comparable dpr to a champion fighter (assuming greataxe), I believe. I'd stick with single-class myself.

Glad you liked the idea. :) Its interesting to see the damage bumps laid out like that. You should update us with how it works out for you! What levels will your campaign be running through? *Edit* If you're using the dual wielder build I laid out you should almost never fail a con save...

As written this works, and is pretty cool at mid-levels. That said - why two levels of warlock? Is it for the additional spell slot? *edit* Even without rolling stats, you can pretty easily have that spread as a half-elf: 8 Strength 8 Int 10 Con 14 +2 = 16 CHA 15 +1 = 16 DEX 15 + 1 = 16 WIS...

The wizard guide author did a pretty in-depth mathematical analysis of the break-even point for GFB vs basic attack vs other cantrips. :)

Correct. TWF really shines when you get +INT to damage. But thats a bit higher level.

INT isn't just damage and AC though - its also to hit with your spells and your save DCs. You're a wizard first, so I don't think that you can really afford to not max that. And DEX is definitely more important than toughness: AC, initiative, dex save, to-hit with your weapon, and weapon damage.

Signature Spell is blah, and doesn't come online until 20th level. The 7th levels slot is useful, but that also comes online much later. My take is that if you're starting at an earlier level I'd much prefer to 'start' with the fighter benefits, as I feel they'd be worth the delayed spell...

INT saves won't really be missed. WIS save is definitely good to have, but I'd value a higher CON save over it. As a bladesinger you're more dependent on self-buffs than an EK, so more CON save is never a bad thing. The problem with that is you don't have enough feat slots for War Caster and...

Thats not really a bladesinger build then, is it? :p The idea is you'd take 1 level of fighter for the following: CON save proficiency More starting HP Dual wielder style Then 18 levels of wizard, and you can top it off with another fighter level somewhere near the end if you really want. :)

So EK as a whole is actually pretty strong ... :) A few points: Concentration - Fighter gets proficiency in concentration save, and you'll have decent CON. That and your high AC + Indomitable will get your through most checks. If you take war caster that advantage on top of it. Your...

Like you said - going strength is 'cool' but not really worth it. I'd do 1 fighter level at level 12, so as not to delay casting too much. I'd probably dual wield (personally), but the +2 damage for one-handing is good too. Mariner is also good; +1 defense and more movement modes

The thing is you don't have enough feats/attribute boosts for it ... if you had more maybe, but there are more important things to take

I'd say no toughness. Bladesinger's thing is agility/damage avoidance. Resilient (DEX) is more important for avoidance, in my opinion

I've DM'd quite a bit before. :) In this case the everyone is in agreement about wanting me to play a character as well. I just want to make sure that the character doesn't unduly hinder the party.

Howdy All, I'll be running Out of the Abyss for a very small group ... 3 characters, to be precise. I'll be playing one of them, in fact. I've read through the starting bits of the adventure, but a few questions ... 1) Three characters is small, but is it realistic (especially given all of...