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Answering a question with a question when my question was "I literally do not understand what you are specifically saying; could you clarify?" complicates my ability to respond. I wasn't arguing with you. I was trying to understand you. But this is the Internet so I guess I'll take a stab at it...

My current DM missed 3e and most of 2e. He has adjusted well to 4e, though he probably throws in more situational modifiers and ad hoc rulings than DMs weaned on 3e would be comfortable with. Some call it "mother may I." I am cool with it because he is a good DM. Grind is not a problem. With...

Knights Move, Low Slash etc. are certainly options but you have to admit that they are corner cases. Eberron was a good attempt at creating a world based on the assumption that D&D magic worked as written. But what if I do not want to play Eberron or Ptolus? D&D, from its initial incarnation...

I think he was intentionally using hyperbole to draw a parallel against criticism of 4e. I may be wrong but I think you might have entirely missed the point.

Thank you.

I remember more than one 1st level Thief with a 17 Intelligence. You basically hide out for a level or two, and then dual class MU when you have some hit points. And you can carry a short sword for style purposes.

The idea of eliminating player-side multiclassing is initially somewhat shocking. But I think I agree. Rather than creating a comprehensive ruleset for multiclassing that will almost certainly have holes, it would be easy enough to release hard-coded multiclass classes. So, there would be a set...

Why? A group of friends get together and play a collaborative game. The Dm runs the world and the players live in it. At certain decision points the DM will make assumptions about my character background. At other decision points I will make assumptions about my character background. We are all...

I am not disagreeing with you. I just don't understand. Maybe we have different definitions of "narrative" etc, Please clarify.

Silly? I distinctly remember when my group drove up to Gencon from Chicago and bought the 3e Player's Handbook. It was such a profound deviation from the game we knew that it blew our minds all out of proportion. 3e, not 4e, was the game-changer. And I am happy for it. I would be fine if 5e was...

A lot of it depends on your improv skills and your relationship with your players. My group has been together along time and no one would intentionally undermine the DM. When a player throws out a new piece of world-building it is assumed that it serves the game. The DM can also just make an...

Emerikol, I am starting to doubt your intentions. 1e is explicit on its rules for Fireball - "Fire based spells (such as Fireball) will not function at all underwater". (1e DMG 56) You can houserule in 1e, 4e , Shadowrun or Monopoly. But what is your point?

I freely admit to agreeing with him. And I'll take it a step further. The DM should not have full control over the results of a player's actions. The rules matter. I want my character creation decisions to have consequence. Also, the players should be able to effect the game world. If the Dm...

The stuff at the end of my post was fluff, but also illustrated how fiddly 1e/2e rules were. They were so fiddly that every gaming group was pretty much playing a separate game. But aside from the fluff at the end of my post, I still contend that, contrary to your post, 3e was a monumental...

Maybe the players like to look up rules because they like to feel that their decisions in terms of skills, feats, multi-class etc. have meaning, and they do not want to just roll random dice against randomly determined target numbers based on the DM's gut feeling at the moment.

I don't ask this to be confrontational, but how much of 1e/2e did you play? For me 3e was the hugest, most ginormous change in my role playing experience. It was the first time that the game had a more or less unified rule set. In the old days, joining a new campaign was really tricky because...

Why do you prefer that the DM gives you a more or less arbitrary number to roll against? If the DM simply describes the scene, and you know the target is about 5' away, then you know, based on your athletics check what it would take to make a standing jump 1 square. It is consistent across...

Is it clear that Gygax intended the loosey-goosey MMI style of 1e/2e, or was this the unintended consequence of a bafflingly complex and inconsistent rule set? I started playing in '82. 3e was a breath of fresh air that completely reinvented the game for me. I like 4e even better.

I have been fortunate enough to play in the same group, more or less, for the last 22 years. I have played every edition since the red box. 4th edition is my favorite flavor since 3rd edition. But... I can see how, for new players, 4th edition can suppress role playing. In my opinion, it...

In fairness to the old school, you did not forget simple stuff. They were still in your spell book. You had a limit of how much you could keep in your head. I support the "flex option" rather than let them use all encounters the ever learned every encounter.