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2022 can't be the CSIO timing, because according to Goodman himself, that was already pending in 2020. The context of the sentence is making it pretty clear that the 2022 date is referring to ending the proceeds going to royalty and the money going to JG instead (because 'it was time for the...

They denied any plans to do further work with JG back in 2020, and then said this was pending all the way back then, so...

You're right in that the phrasing probably isn't doing me any favors, but the point is just because Bledsaw is a frothing bigot doesn't automatically translate to him being a liar. People are weird and complex. Right now we have more proof of Goodman being dishonest than Bledsaw, so...

The thing about Bledsaw is that he's said a lot of horrible naughty word, consistently. Just because you're a bigot doesn't mean you're a liar, and that Facebook post certainly sounded like someone who's living their truth. Their awful, small-minded, nasty truth. On the other hand, we've all directly...

Why are you assuming GG is telling the truth about JG not making any money on the project? People willing to do business with Nazis are just as likely to lie as the Nazis are. Probably more likely, in fact, because they're trying to play both sides.

'We're going to try really hard not to make enough money that we have to pay some to Judge's Guild' is not the kind of promise I'm looking for, here.

Goodman is legitimizing JG by partnering with them for this product. Goodman is saying that what Bledshaw said is not enough to keep them from being a part of the community. This is creating a support structure for Bledshaw to continue to say bigoted things without feeling like he will face...

No idea, it surprised me too, but I couldn't find a setting for it. May just be a board thing and I need to modulate.

I also want to stress my game store example is not some theoretical exercise. I have several women friends who flat out won't set foot in one of the game stores in town because when they previously have, several of the regulars were sitting around making awful misogynistic jokes and one of the...

You are absolutely not looking at this objectively. If a minority person walks into a game store, and overhears someone saying hateful things about them, they are going to feel less safe, because someone who says hateful things might do hateful things. If they go to the store owner, and express...

It's still putting money in Bledshaw's pocket. It's still saying 'we want your company as part of our community, even though it hurts minorities'. Bledshaw will profit from this. There's no way from Bledshaw to not profit from this unless they don't make the product. This is a luxury good, a...

Legitimizing bigots as welcome in the community is harm. That's what buying products from Bledshaw does. You might not think it's harmful, but several minority posters in this thread have directly disagreed with that, and they know better.

This isn't threading the needle. There's no multiple degrees of separation here. Judge's Guild is directly owned by the bigot in question. Goodman Games was aware enough of their awful views 5 years ago to swear off working with them. Bledshaw has made no efforts in the community to apologize or...

We don't have to forgive them while they haven't done anything to make amends yet. The first step belongs to the party that has wronged others, and Goodman Games is doing something wrong, regardless of how many excuses you make for them. Maybe some people won't ever forgive them, but that's...

If someone is willing to give a Nazi money purely because they want a luxury item, then they've opened themselves up to judgement. They may not be a bigot themselves, but they're willing to fund them, and they've decided that their leisure activity is more important than making a stand for...

WotC has had multiple instances of working with bad actors in spite of people bring it to their attention. However, this is a thread about Goodman Games, and not WotC, and derailing it to demand an accounting of their indiscretions which have been well documented elsewhere does not serve the...

Then the response to that is working with neither, not declaring that nothing matters and giving money to Nazis.

This whole 'everything is bad so don't care about any of it' attitude is singularly unhelpful to making things better. Yes, everyone is human, everyone falters, ethical consumption is incredibly difficult under capitalism. BUT THAT IS NOT AN EXCUSE TO GIVE MONEY TO FLAGRANT, OPENLY UNREPENANT...

Just because you don't want the delicious chicken to be homophobic doesn't mean it magically isn't. You're still supporting bigots if you eat there.

Yes, they did. She continues to profit from Harry Potter merchandise. That money is enabling bigots, just like money from the CSIO project will. This is the problem.