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~Vhex Yes my goal is to make it easier to push someone off a cliff, However I did not want to change it without adding a positive outcome to the same roll. I feel the RaW is to simple/safe. It seems to make standing on a cliff/ledge not something that would be in the foremost thought of a...

Ok, I can see your point. It does complicate and screw over non-physical creatures, but a non physical creature should not be on an even plane with someone who is physical. The gain is actually being able to push/be pushed off of a ledge. Creating a more dangerous situation for anyone trying to...

Hello, So I am DMing a game and a situation of one of the monsters my PCs where fighting was pushed off a Cliff. First time it came up in the game so we looked up the rule and I did not like the Saving throw answer. I came up with a house rule and I wanted to get some opinions on it. Forced...