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Thanks, I'll go have a look at it.

We're playing Razor Coast setting, and I've decided to play a upper class young guy with a lot of natural magical ability, but no real stomach for adventure who aimlessly gets on the wrong boat and ends up heading to Port Shaw. So I've got some ideas for the build here. First off, Marcellano...

Gorgoroth, that build is intense. But I'm afraid is both a little too complicated for me at the moment, and maybe not quite as defender driven as I'd like. But I gotta say, it does look fun.

Yeah, I phased it out for Devout Protector Expertise, but it's one I still had in the back of my mind, thanks for the comment and the NADS definition though!

Actually, I'm imagining with Battlewise getting my initiative roll to a +7 (without stat changes) and Call of Challenge (minor action), I can roll into a group, close burst 3 them with divine sanction, and now with Bitter Challenge, they're slowed. So I see some use in it NOW actually. I had...

Actually, I think I can arrange that, I don't know why I didn't before.

Rebuilt feats, now looks at: Dwarven Weapon Prof Bitter Challenge Battlewise Devout Protector Expertise As for Multiclass feats, I've come to like the "Oath of Enmity" available via Avenger. Thoughts?

Sadly, character was designed on dice rolls. So I had a 16, and "Dwarf" made it a 18. I HAD saw the World Serpent's Grasp, that sounded neat. And I'll definately take DPE, that's very awesome. Also, let me sound like a fool. what is NADS?

I'll be sure to pour over those tonight. maybe in place of the Versatile Channeler?

I'm not sure how the axe/hammer game will play out with the other characters, so I expect my level 8 feat will set me into a weapon type. Gotta understand the rest of the party better first. As for gear/inherent bonuses. I'm not sure what you mean. I'm not even sure how the DM wants me to do...

Neon, thanks for all your thoughts, another player is playing a warden hybrid I believe. So I think we should be covered on defense. Channel Divinity is situational, thats why I don't like it. Can you suggest a good multiclass feat? Battlewise I went with so I have a decent initiative...

The Plate issue is done since I'm going to go full paladin. But the problem with the plate prof feat is it requires a 15 strength. Whereas if I get it via paladin, no strength requirement.

Ok, I have him built in the character builder. Lemme show you what I got. Level 6 Dwarf Paladin STR 13 CON 18 DEX 11 INT 11 WIS 18 CHA 17 Level 1 Traded LoH for Ardent Vow At-Wills- Ardent Strike, Virtuous Strike Encounter (1) - Valorous Smite Daily (1) - Majestic Halo Utility (2) - Call of...

I'm still stuck on feats, Half considered taking "Versatile Channeler" and getting Rebuke Undead via Inovker.

Understood, the above might work for the strength build. Below is similar to the orignal block with some minor changes. Level 4 points in chat & con. STR 13 CON 18 DEX 11 INT 11 WIS 16 CHA 17 The concept is the best possible defender, but I would like multiple targeting.

Ok GreyIce, I see what you're getting at. I've been wondering how the straight paladin would feels intead of the BM mix. So would you help me explore that? Actual Stat block is 13 16 11 11 14 15 Dwarf gives me +2 con, and the other +2 (by Faerun rules) I can float to str or wis. +1 x2...

I had definitely thought about that one too

OH. This just in. Armor Proficiency Plate REQUIRES 15 str & con. I can't give up either of my 3 primary stats (con, wis, cha) to meet that. So technically, Paladin Armor Prof is my only method of getting plate.

You both make very valid points! I'll have to reassess those options! This is exactly why I posted here, cause someone is going to think differently! I appreciate the help!

In terms of a "role" defender of course. Beyond that, the characters father is a dwarven battlerager (not 3.5, think Pwent Thibbledorf), in fact he leads a unit of them. The father and his unit are rather famous. This guy has recently completed a tour of duty with the clan, and is setting out...