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Of course, but my argument was never about the platform. It was about the abuse of the platform by companies that didn't need crowdfunding. But I see now that we've moved past the concept of it being a crowdfunding platform, and have accepted it as a marketing/distribution platform.

The distinction of it being accepted as a marketing/distribution platform really changed my mind. I'm going to reconsider running a KS campaign, now that I see it differently.

I've never used Kickstarter to have any personal experiences, but you might have changed my perspective on it. I didn't look at it like a store shelf. I saw it through a lens of crowdfunding, which in my defense is what Kickstarter was originally intended for. If it has instead become accepted...

I'm sorry you feel my points are unclear, but it is clear to me that you didn't comprehend them. It feels to me that either you didn't read what I said, or you disregarded what I said in order to continue with an argument. I see no point to this, and I'm starting to feel very unwelcome here. I...

I don't appreciate having my points ignored, so I will stop replying here. If you are confused by this, please re-read what I have already posted.

Giving alms to the poor is moral. The wealthy posing as the poor to receive your alms is immoral.

Well, I don't think there's any more argument I could make. For me to explain morality beyond the scope of your examples, and instead what I am referring to, would require a massive word count that I don't have the energy to write. You already made the point that there are benefits to...

Well, I don't feel like getting too philosophical here in a conversation about Kickstarter. But when I say Profit, I mean excessive profit at your expense. Of course I want RPG businesses to make enough to live comfortably! And of course I want them to make profit to make more products. My point...

I think you are misinterpreting what I am saying. Firstly, I had issues with Kickstarter long before I even started my project, so there should be no correlation between my success and someone else's. If anything, I am conceding to your previous points by saying that I should have done...

So I don't need money to cover the costs. I did all of the artwork myself, I did all of the design, layout, etc - everything myself. The only cost I had was the ISBN. What cost do I have to account for by making a Kickstarter? If the point of Kickstarter was to advertise and take orders, then I...

So why couldn't they use the money from their previous titles to cover that cost? Also, the way this worked throughout history was for investors to lend money, so they would see a return. I understand the mentality of a backer, it is instead of getting money back from the investment, you will...

I agree, and I'm kicking myself for this very reason. I realize now that I should have done a Kickstarter for my product, for the simple fact that it would have had more visibility. Unfortunately for me, I don't like ripping people off.

So you bought the content, and then the creator gets money? I thought Kickstarter worked by you paying, and then maybe you get the content sometime later.

It's immoral because they do not have to use Kickstarter to release their product. They use Kickstarter to milk more money from you. It's the same problem with Early Access video games and their DLC.

Lastoutkast: I would shamelessly self-promote my game as accomplishing this, but I suspect you're looking for something that works in your current favorite game system. I'd say that it's possible to do with other games, but with most systems, it's difficult to implement this because the rules...

I don't morally agree with Kickstarter. It seems to be the same creators that should have already made money from their previous successful project to fund their next one. At this point, I think most publishers/creators use kickstarter as a marketing tool, and from a business perspective, NOT...

I don't hate them, but I definitely think stats are outdated. If you were to remove all other parts of a character, and leave them only with stats, it'd be hard to conceptualize the character. Couldn't something that describes my character fulfill the mechanical need, and also provide me with...

Hello everyone! Obviously, I'm new here. I'm more of a lurker, but I will try to contribute as much as I can. Usually my contributions are in the form of game design and setting design ideas, so I'll see you in threads like that! Also, any thread that relates to black metal or dungeon synth, if...