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The middle ages (medieval era) are generally considered ended at 1500, anything after is considered renaissance. Nothing penetrated plate at 300 yards, not an arrow or bolt, and even close up, a sword or dagger is a club. It's not penetrating...

Actually, this is the first time I posted anything about the sling, and i'm not sure what DoMT is... After discussing with my gaming group and this group, the argument seems to be leave it. I can live with 1d4, but the range of 30/120 means in order to sling without disad you have to be within...

not know about slings I was debating the 4x long rang guidelines, but the other weapons are more direct fire weapons (crossbows, bows, spears, etc) and was considering 5x for the sling, but kind of caved a bit. So I mixed it and allowed the sling bullet 5x, the consistent density sling stone to...

It appears you are mostly correct, and I was incorrect. The Sling was the victim of advances in warefare. It is easier to quote http://chrisharrison.net/index.php/Research/Sling When looking at the evolution of ranged weapons, there is a trend towards increasingly simple operation. The sling...

I'm not sure why you think slings became ineffective with armor. They were very effective on leather, chain and other armor, up until plate. And most weapons are ineffective against plate. Sure an arrow can pierce plate, but only after the arrow tip was redesigned. And, even then not all the...

oh, and unsorted stones are free. Just pick them up. ceramic/clay stones 4cp per 20 and 24 oz (1.5 lbs) which is the same information given in the PHB for sling bullets. sling bullets (lead) 5 sp* per 20 and 2.5 lbs* *in a few articles the lead bullets average weight was 1.8oz to...

The argument for distance like grapple, arms length and 5' only works in single action tactical games. D&d assumes a 6 second round, and you should have several attacks, maybe a slash a slight push and another slash. Or a high feint, low strike, parry, and pummel strike. That would eliminate the...

I disagree with the speed factor in most weapons. Sure a dagger is going to be faster than a longsword, but the dagger has to get in and get out of the longswords range before he gets hit. in some Systems, the pole arm gets a bonus in initiative for the first attack (ICE's rolemaster, and DCC...

Oops, it cut off part of my thought. I do think there is truth to the idea players will want martial weapons instead of simple weapons, if available. Well, most anyway. But I like to be unique. everyone can pick a long sword or battle axe, but what about the flail or pick or hammer? I've...

Leading edge games had a system out years ago, where each weapon had a power and penetration, and you cross referenced it with the AC. The system was probably much more realistic than 1d4,1d6, 1d8, but the system wasn't much fun to play because it was a lot of looking tables up. Okay,I took a...

the chris Harrison article (above) does have better references. here they are References Blair, Claude (1958). European Armor, circa 1066 to circa 1700. London: B.T. Batsford Ltd. Bradbury, Jim (2004). The Routledge Companion to Medieval Warfare. London: Routledge, Taylor and Francis Group...

missed the not Yes. the sling was great for it's time period. I've had people tell me it would not penetrate plate. That is true, but not many weapons could penetrate plate enough to do damage. The arrow and crossbow might be more accurate at closer ranges, as they are mostly direct fire...

I have discussed buying a sling using shortbow stats, and I like the idea. But it is a peasants weapon. Strange, the PHB (pg149) has a sling entry, 1d4, and range, but does not say bullets. Although on the next page it lists costs of lead bullets. Yup. Stones should be 1d4, and lead 1d6 -...

Actually, the sling bullet was comparable to the bow at 1d4+1 vs 1d6, sure a d6 has a 6, but it also has a 1. The range in 2nd ed was short/med/long ranges. shortbow was 5/10/15, sling stone was 4/8/16 and sling bullet was 5/10/20. Oh, and hand crossbow was 2/4/6 (in tens of yards). 1st ed was...

Here are a couple of good articles about slings and sling history, they in the previous post, but small font. http://www.lloydianaspects.co.uk/weapons/sling.html http://warfarehistorynetwork.com/dai...ons-the-sling/

I've played various versions of (A)D&D over the years, everything but 4th ed. And the slings could keep up with shortbows and even have a greater range, well, sling stones (1d4 damage) had about the same range as a bow, and the sling bullet had a greater range (1d4+1 damage). I started playing...