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    D&D General Two underlying truths: D&D heritage and inclusivity

    I dont' know. I subscribe to Rule Zero. As a DM, if I want somewhat good orcs? I'm going to reasonably justify it and insert them into my game. Perhaps and alignment shift. And just because of this thread? I might have my PC's end up employing Orc mercenaries who (if they survive long enough)...
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    D&D General Two underlying truths: D&D heritage and inclusivity

    As a FANTASY game... someone do the damn Netbook on Orcs. Just to get it off the table. Stop waiting for WotC. That is the beauty of FANTASY games... you can do what you want using the rules. Cosplay is nothing new. Some players are enthusiastic. Good for them. I've got a Goblin NPC pulling...
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    D&D General Two underlying truths: D&D heritage and inclusivity

    Quite frankly, someone should make a Good Orc book. WotC gives plenty of guidance on that. Even 1st ed AD&D gave interpretation on how to create PC's from Monsters and such. If people are angry that Orcs are being stereotyped and encouraging REAL RACISM, then they should sit down and write the...
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    D&D General Two underlying truths: D&D heritage and inclusivity

    Ah, etymology. Thanks for the post. Nice fact regarding D&D being used as an example.
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    D&D General Two underlying truths: D&D heritage and inclusivity

    Absolutely. Orcs have "evolved" since the LotR days. Within Fiction, orcs are assigned motivations. Motivations that can be interpreted by the reader, however the reader likes. Every character in written works is assigned motivations. Quite different from "sapiency". Orcs are not sapient...
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    D&D General Two underlying truths: D&D heritage and inclusivity

    Which has been addressed. I'll repeat it here: replace HOA with RULES LAWYERS and you will still understand the context. Funny how you failed to address my points in a meaningful manner. An oversight, I am sure. Now, while A1-4 to address slavery ending in destruction of the slavers in a most...
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    D&D General Two underlying truths: D&D heritage and inclusivity

    Fine. Substitute RULES LAWYERS for HOA. You still won't miss the meaning. Care to expand upon what is wrong with it or you can just stick with your ad hominem.
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    D&D General Two underlying truths: D&D heritage and inclusivity

    Iin some interview, Orcs were mentioned as being loosely derived from LotR. Plus, the similarities are all too obvious. Tolkien found his inspiration also, from prior works, no doubt. Orcs are NOT SAPIENT. They don't even exist except in writing and one's imagination. People in the real world...
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    D&D General Two underlying truths: D&D heritage and inclusivity

    1. Truths are important. The struggle between good and evil. In my prior post? Orcs in D&D were derived from Lord of The Rings, as a "race" created by an evil god specifically to be evil. How many know this? 2. You don't. Common sense would be applied. The problem? There will always be a...
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    D&D General Two underlying truths: D&D heritage and inclusivity

    The whole push for nebulously defined "heritage" and "inclusivity" - because there will always be someone to complain about something - reminds me of the Jacobins after the French Revolution. There, liberal assemblies contested with monarchists for power. Eventually, the Liberals - French...
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