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    D&D 5E Dealing with optimizers at the table

    Ah. Thank you for the rundown. More Warlock dipping. Looks like their rules (warlock) and/or multiclassing could get revised in the future (maybe). Then everyone will rush to the next best thing. It's not my style, but I personally wouldn't care if my team-mate brings it. It's too samey. It's an...
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    I hear ya. That explains why I didn't catch on. I only played a few games in that edition. An unoptimized ranger that picked up a Grey Render companion that I didn't even know at the time what it was. It was explained as sort of a blue slaaad, but friendlier & gray. That's when my bowstrings...
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    D&D 5E Dealing with optimizers at the table

    At lower tiers, this can sort of be attempted with a knowledge domain cleric casting enhance ability on themself for advantage on the skill check. It only lasts for 10 minutes once per day though. I don't think that goes far enough for what you mean, so might I inquire about any more egregious...
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    D&D 5E Dealing with optimizers at the table

    First off, and directly to the point- your situation falls under the "MORE SERIOUS PROBLEM" category here. I don't know of anyone at this point that is arguing otherwise. As to the other condition, I see where you may have gotten confused. I had originally separated those concepts as reasons...
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    D&D 5E Dealing with optimizers at the table

    I agree, but since the OP used that term and putting quotes around "optimization" would get tiresome, its use has become shorthand for the type of builds in question in this thread. [Run macro replacing optimization w/munchkinism]. OP also doesn't want to call his players with accounts here...
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    D&D 5E Dealing with optimizers at the table

    Yep. If they do anything besides grumble, this is how my DM tries to fix it. The power to reign it in is just a Thanos Snap away, but they don't -probably out of fear that we will leave the table (and new players are difficult to come by in our backwater area these days). My current...
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    D&D 5E Dealing with optimizers at the table

    Ideally, sure. But it rarely works out that way. When cracking the board-game/rpg hybrid Shadows Over Brimstone, out of the box we found some of the pre-gen character archetype cards were just quite a bit better than others. A 10-20% difference right off the bat that just escalated from there as...
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    D&D 5E Dealing with optimizers at the table

    Here's yet another solution OP that I'm developing to solve my issues. We play every other Sunday, the DM has another group on the alternating weeks, so we are planning to run Sidequest Sundays: a combat-heavy parallel campaign where we run our characters through all the time-consuming tactical...
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    D&D 5E Dealing with optimizers at the table

    Yeah well, that's just, ya know, like, your opinion, man... While Walter is an #######, it doesn't make him a bad player, unless by 'a bad player' you meant to assert he's an #######. So what is to be done about it? The individuals giving advice to either suck it up and continue to deal with...
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    D&D 5E Dealing with optimizers at the table

    A young man in our games, fresh out of high school, was like this- heck even got their tablet out and PLAYED video games when any non-combat pillar of play was in the spotlight (that wouldn't fly at my table, but it wasn't my table) but let's be honest, while immature and inexperienced players...
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    D&D 5E Dealing with optimizers at the table

    I'm playing as part of an optimized team (D&D: Optimized Battery and the Blender; episode #26) in a campaign now. It didn't start out that way- my first character was an Ice Witch modeled after Tzarina Bokha from the Warhammer Total War trailer. Vos (Birthright) cleric, Winter Domain homebrew...
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