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Interesting ideas... the BS6 of this build can be swapped out for a Valor Bard 6, which has the exact same cantrippy-flavored Extra Attack ability. This could reduce MADness (though the EK is still Int-based, so can't win em' all...).

I think the bottleneck here is clearly the amount of unique spells having a duration. We need more splatbooks than the lazy bastards at Hasbro can come up with :ROFLMAO:

3.5 allowed all martial classes to go up to 4 attacks, and it was somewhat easy to reach that number of attacks in multi-class builds too. 5e designers wanted Fighters to be unique in that regard… though there are plenty of alternative ways to do more attacks if one is willing to spend bonus...

Ah, got it 🤝

Would you mind spelling out the exact sequence of that round? I think I’m missing something there.

But the BS Extra Attack can be substituted by the Valor Bard’s ability of the same name and level. So then you could sneak in those 3 levels of illusionist, if the goal is merely to cast as many cantrips per round as possible. Then we get to 4 cantrips per round at level 16 with Haste, and 6...

For the reason you cited, my understanding is that the Bladesinger’s and Valor Bard’s Extra Attacks cannot be combined, but that the EK’s War Magic can be combined with either of those.

Good point regarding Mind Sliver stacking. Thanks for correcting. I edited the post to point this out. 🙏

Assuming there is no flaw in the above logic, I am interested to explore the implications of this quirky build... It certainly should raise some red flags as even if it's RAW, it probably isn't RAI... but I don't necessarily think it's overpowered either. At 13th level, I bet there are quite a...

I’ve read threads converging towards the consensus that BS Extra Attack and EK War Magic can be combined. I’ve also seen threads converging towards Haste being combined with the above abilities to cast an extra cantrip with the single extra attack it provides. By the RAW, it seems to me that...