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  1. Dannager

    We're All Gamers Together: Why Harassment Has To Stop

    I don't really feel like I need to comment on any of that. I just want the above quote to appear twice in this thread. It's just a perfect illustration.
  2. Dannager

    We're All Gamers Together: Why Harassment Has To Stop

    Fergurg, I think it might be a good idea for you to take a step back from this thread and reassess. It's clearly bothering you a great deal. You don't have to take my advice, of course, but maybe just consider it briefly.
  3. Dannager

    We're All Gamers Together: Why Harassment Has To Stop

    Including the multiple people in this thread with backgrounds in law and criminology, presumably.
  4. Dannager

    We're All Gamers Together: Why Harassment Has To Stop

    Please proceed, Governor.
  5. Dannager

    We're All Gamers Together: Why Harassment Has To Stop

    I think you're simply going to have to accept that we don't agree with you on this. We don't see something as punishment merely because the person being affected doesn't like it.
  6. Dannager

    We're All Gamers Together: Why Harassment Has To Stop

    Nonsense. The question of whether black rights or racists' rights would come out on top was settled decades ago. That hasn't put an end to all fighting, just most of it. You're trying to squeeze reality into a handful of cliched pseudo-quotations because you think it sounds nice. Well there...
  7. Dannager

    We're All Gamers Together: Why Harassment Has To Stop

    I'm quite sure there are a number of far more reliable ways to lose a war. The nice part is that you don't need to believe me. You're living in the aftermath. This is what it's like. It isn't perfect, yet, or even close. But I'm afraid you can't put the genie back in the bottle.
  8. Dannager

    We're All Gamers Together: Why Harassment Has To Stop

    That's the first option I laid out - continue to perpetuate your callous ideology, and be judged poorly for it. You can call it "resistance" and cast it in whatever noble light makes you feel better, but it doesn't change the result, and becoming a crusader for an ugly cause isn't a particularly...
  9. Dannager

    We're All Gamers Together: Why Harassment Has To Stop

    Hi, Maxperson. I'm not going to be particularly kind to you, in this post. I'm not going to be overtly rude to you, but I'm not going to be kind to you. I honestly don't have the patience for it (and that's saying a lot). If you require kindness in your discussions, I suggest skipping this post...
  10. Dannager

    We're All Gamers Together: Why Harassment Has To Stop

    Yeah, no. We've been finished with this particular social embarrassment for months, now. The discussion around Gamergate is over, and its legacy is not what you want it to be. Time to move on.
  11. Dannager

    We're All Gamers Together: Why Harassment Has To Stop

    I'm sure some of them cared about ethics. That doesn't mean that's what the "movement" was about, though. And the ones who did care about ethics but stuck around anyway have a lot to answer for. And yes, Taneras, me laughing at Gamergate for its pretense about games journalism is totally...
  12. Dannager

    We're All Gamers Together: Why Harassment Has To Stop

    If it was merely a question of "different thoughts", it wouldn't be an issue because no one would know. The problem is that when you say "different thoughts", you really mean "different words", or more accurately, "abusive, harassing, or disturbing words."
  13. Dannager

    We're All Gamers Together: Why Harassment Has To Stop

    Hahahaha Literally, "It's about ethics in games journalism," in this thread, said with a straight face.
  14. Dannager

    We're All Gamers Together: Why Harassment Has To Stop

    It's the job of law enforcement to make determinations of likely criminal wrongdoing, not to ensure that a given environment remains comfortable and welcoming. A convention has standards for conduct that go far beyond merely what is expected of a person under the law.
  15. Dannager

    We're All Gamers Together: Why Harassment Has To Stop

    Because some people shouldn't be made welcome, out of concern for the larger community.
  16. Dannager

    We're All Gamers Together: Why Harassment Has To Stop

    Here's the thing, Rygar - literally no one cares what you do or don't believe. This is happening whether you chip in or not. We don't require your support. At all. We're asking for it, because it would make this easier for everyone involved. You've been shown the evidence - more than enough of...
  17. Dannager

    We're All Gamers Together: Why Harassment Has To Stop

    See, here's the problem: You can't tell the difference between a community that no longer exists, and a community that simply doesn't want you as part of it. The rest of us are part of a community - one that you pretend doesn't exist because the alternative is uncomfortable.
  18. Dannager

    We're All Gamers Together: Why Harassment Has To Stop

    But haven't you heard? They were here first. We owe them a debt that can never be repaid, except by ignoring or enabling harassment so that they can enjoy the fleeting time they have left!
  19. Dannager

    We're All Gamers Together: Why Harassment Has To Stop

    You're right. We don't really care if a lack of tolerance and acceptance on your part causes you to be offended by others judging you for that very same lack of tolerance and acceptance. That's the point. If this bothers you, good. Let's hope it continues bothering you until you finally decide...
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