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You have pretty much summed up my feelings on this book, but I would like to point out a slight error. The Fang of Lolth is not Forgotten Realms specific. Lolth and her followers are also present in Greyhawk, they are less pominent on Oerth than they are on Toril, but they are present on Oerth...

Bah, I meant prominent not pominent

Just got round to reading this. It's an interesting piece of polemic, but shouldn't be mistaken for anything else. It's important to remember that in a relatively short period of time Israel has got it's hands as bloody as anyone else. I'm not saying that that makes the Palestinians angels...

I don't think they need to worry just yet, since this is still a reasoned discussion, and there's been no reason for anyone to take offence (didn't someone wonder hoe this was possible?) They should only need to get involved if we descend into screaming insults at each other in BaDlY...

I did. Didn't notice it had gone.;) I found playing CP2020 taught me how to turn them into Chaotic Poor.;)

It's comforting to think that some people are 'evil', just as it's comforting to think that people are 'good'. It doesn't make it true, however. I think alignment is a poor substitute for motivations in any system, modern, futuristic or fantasy. If you want a good example of how I see this...

I tend to run games from the point of view that 'good' and 'evil' are usually just clever PR to justify wars of genocide and other atrocities against the humanoids ("Why do you care that we've slaughtered this entire orc tribe? They're all evil, you know."). This is not to say that the...

Actually they turn out Chaotic Greedy, but then I found that even with an alignment system. Paladins were no exception, the standard argument was that the more treasure we collected, the more he could tithe to his church, and hey, there's a body over here we haven't looted yet!;)

I think you miss the point of the 'grey' fantasy setting. It's not that Drow are good instead of evil, it's that no-one is good or evil - mostly the choice is nasty or nastier. And it's far more interesting than 1 or 2. 1 and 2 are identical for all practical purposes. Having one or two good...

Sounds like a d*mn fine moment to me.:) After all, the player got exactly what he asked for when he said "Can I play a Drow?"

Aren't these presented as exceptions to the rule, though? In much the same way that Drizzt is presented as the exception to the rule that all Drow are evil? This implies that there is a rule. In fact, the only race that's presented as having a free range of alignments is humans.

How about a half-orc paladin? Ooh, look ma, no Drow! Or how about a human from an evil society? Or does that mean I don't get kewl abilities? And as for the newbie vs the fanboy, I'll take the newbie every time - newbies are capable of learning. We've all been newbies, but only the l33t (and...

Why are you making so much work out of Detect Evil? Try this for size: Evil (and Good) comes in 2 different brands - Petty, and Great. Petty Evil is the ordinary, everyday stuff, from thinking something nasty to slaughtering villages in an orgy of bloodlust. Petty Evil tarnishes the soul, and...

Once cast Wall of Stone as a shield between the party and some giants throwing rocks at us. The giants thought that pushing the wall over was much more fun than lobbing stones at us. It killed 4 out of 7 party members outright, and a 5th one who couldn't get out from under the rubble and bled...

I once had a ranger who got reincarnated as a Gnome.;)

However, I should also point out that this doesn't contradict the argument that alignment is a genetic trait.

But then it's strange how the Elves always live in a good culture (Drow excepted), and the Orcs always live in an evil one, regardless of which game world they're in. Are you seriously suggesting this is just 'coincidence'?

I'm not suggesting it, the alignment system does. How else can you talk about entire races having 'alignments' without any reference to specific cultures. There is, however, a way to explain the existence of good Drow, but no-one's come near it yet. BTW, I'd allow Drizzt to be a good Drow...

Seriously?!?!? If that were true, don't you think they might pause for a moment before sacrificing yet another baby to a demonic spider-god?

And Dispel Magic is 3rd level...besides, it should be easy enough to research a counterspell to any specific cloaking enchantment. And aid from a deity isn't going to mean squat if they drag you into a temple of Lloth to perform the test. In the end, the evil Drow win, since they only have to...