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Magic and Fantasy are not the same thing.

I'm probably the biggest hater of the class on these boards and even I don't want to just plain render them unplayable. There's no sport in it.

Step 1: Casting draws and AoO. Step 2: Find a class identity that's worth something instead of 'has big spell list. Step 3: Whittle down the spell list, have subclasses grant expanded spell list. Step 4: Have actual subclasses instead of legacy school specializations with a focused theme for...

Only because people wont' let other things be interesting or powerful without labeling it magic as per the premise of this thread.

Still wondering what we're paying for when we're getting rulebooks without the rules we actually need. Why not give out index cards that say 'ask your DM'?

Because we know which classes matter and which are okay to be sacrificed to lipservice to simplicity and old school play.

Meaningful choices aren't simple. Simple good. Therefore we should have just one class... The Wizard. Because it's the only class that's apparently untouchable.

You realize that the game has changed fundamentally 5-27 times, at least four of which were in that 30 years, right? And that we're speaking specifically about the current iteration, which has only existed for a third of your time with the brand name?

What's keeping feats from doing this?

Self-described 'pain in the butt' is honestly worse than boring like +x blandness. If the DM tells me taking a thing is going to be busy work, I'm just not going to take the thing.

Oh, cool. So what sort of stunts does that allow md-jump? How 'unusually long' as that jump going to be and what's the Dc for it? Ask you DM? Oh, so not empowered on the player side at all and not consistent across tables like I've been talking about this whole time? Yeah. So I don't think...

And the Jump ability check strictly limits how far and high one can jump. Hence the problem I have with it.

This is... somehow even less compelling than a plain +x weapon. Bottom line, I want to be able to do things. As in the same way a wizard can do things by casting fly or spider climb, or charm person. More numbers aren't all that important to me, especially since bounded accuracy means the dice...

Teaching players not to expect loot and to steal from random NPCs and field strip corpses to scrape gold together for their needs.

Same.

See, I want the rules to actually support me and provide a consistent experience and I would never say that the fact that I can ignore the rules means the rules support that.

I'm pretty sure of a dog or particularly large branch can do it with no prep, I normal human man can. This is the other problem with the 'anything powerful must be magical' mindset: D&D tends to ignore how real life actually works when working out a baseline and somehow calls that verisimilitude.

Because the combat abstraction is terribly boring and by design offers very little narrative control?

And removing them from actually doing anything, thus handing all that narrative control back to the wizard where apparently the designers and fanbase want it!

Then the question is whether you're going to keep them from doing just that, because in my experience, most players treat logistics puzzles as a Gordian Knot; cutting through it as quickly and efficiently as possible to get past it.