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    Bard does not suck!

    I was reading some old comics the other day and was surprised no one mentioned this reference: Giant In the Playground Games 3rd edition, sure, but it adds some funny when you play yer bard. :D
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    Shaman AC too low?

    Taking up chainmail and gaining the +6 AC bonus also means sacrificing 3 points in a stat you're unlikely to ever use again, not to mention a feat slot that could be better for something else. My solution was to build off of intelligence, since that's a natural tertiary stat of shamans and...
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    Shaman AC too low?

    Hey, that's great! With those theoretical other classes and their AC boosting abilities, combined with my Protector Shaman AC boosting abilities, we should have no problem against the hypothetical gangs of Archers that will no doubt swarm my group! Especially since the scaling AC problem you...
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    Allies?

    Heh, ok. Thanks for your answers! I imagined that to be the case but figured I'd ask anyway.
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    Allies?

    So, new question: What defines an ally? If I use a power that has an effect on my allies, am I considered an ally? If I'm a shaman, and I use a power through my Spirit Companion that has a beneficial effect on adjacent allies, and I am adjacent, do I receive said benefits? I would assume...
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    Shaman AC too low?

    Ah, okay, I see your point now, and perhaps I missed it from the earlier posts. You bring up a very good point; I concede that scaling AC is valuable, and I can recognize the need to boost that up... eventually (when levels and feats permit that luxury). However, too often players get it in...
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    Shaman AC too low?

    Okay, yes to your last statement-- their only use to for Str is to get heavy armor. But they shouldn't need to. I disagree with the idea that they're supposed to hide and not really "exist" on the battlefield. Party Design should be around covering other player's weaknesses. Who do you run...
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    Bard does not suck!

    Skip to 1:15, and you'll get a sense of what I'm talking about (clip is, by the way, from Chinese Ghost Story 2) http://www.youtube.com/v/N7becm80dj4&hl=en&fs=1 I've always had this image of the Bard as the Taoist Monk from this movie. See, in this mythos, anything "unclean" or corrupted from...
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    Shaman AC too low?

    Yes, I suppose you have a point. Perhaps my experience playing 4th edition is a bit low-- on the other hand, IS there a reason why the Shaman should simply not Be In Combat? I mean, whatever happened to D&D, where every class had its drawbacks, people occasionally rolled a '3' for a stat (my...
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    Question regarding multiclass: Shaman Spirit ability

    Very nifty point. What if half the party were made up of bards with melee reach weapons-- the Shamans put up a wall of Spirit Creatures while the Bards attack with Misdirected Mark-- but putting the originators of the mark on the Shamans. Think about that for a second. The Spirit Creatures...
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    Shaman AC too low?

    Well, there's one thing in the PHB2 that can help with that. If you read p. 119, "Implements" last line: "...Without an implement, you can still use these powers." So that solves your problem right there. And if your party came across a magic implement *and* a magic long spear, I seriously...
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    Bard does not suck!

    I grew up watching these cartoons but the neurons failed to make a connection until you pointed it out. Brilliant! :D As for vicious remarks for the similarly named At-Will ability... For a killing blow: The Sixth Sense "I see dead people." And plenty of others you can probably modify...
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    Shaman AC too low?

    If you're insistent about having your Shaman in melee combat, I'd consider his weapon options: simple melee, longspear. Consider that last one-- it's a military melee weapon, with reach. I consider that to be a strong hint on the class designers that a Shaman is supposed to stand behind a...
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    Question regarding multiclass: Shaman Spirit ability

    Yeah, this and DanceofMasks responses had me thinking of a straight Bard too. I'm going to take a closer look at that possibility, thanks to you two. Thanks for the replies, guys! ;)
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    Question regarding multiclass: Shaman Spirit ability

    Yeah, this reply makes the most sense to me. It may not work out for me, but thanks all the same Draco! (And thanks to all of the rest of you who contributed replies-- even if they did not pertain to subject, I browsed through the PHB2 and found a few things I didn't know about. Much...
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    Question regarding multiclass: Shaman Spirit ability

    I forgot to add: PHB2: Bard, p. 68, Misdirected Mark: Target is marked by an ally within five squares of you. Warden, p. 153, Nature's Wrath: You can mark each adjacent enemy as a free action. /Are you sure you're looking at Version 4.0? ~~~* The more you know! ;)
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    Question regarding multiclass: Shaman Spirit ability

    If you also have the Player's Handbook 2, turn to page 218 (the page entitled "Appendix: Rules Update"), look at the little box on the bottom right of the page, entitled "The Marked Condition." It states pretty clearly there that any creature with a mark on it suffers from a -2 penalty to...
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    Question regarding multiclass: Shaman Spirit ability

    Hah, ok. Thanks for all the replies! Yes, the effect does feel a little "mashed in", so I suppose I'll have to figure out another way to keep the damned fool strikers in my party alive (without a defender! *Sigh*). We'll see... Oh, and to AbdulAlhazred: Duelpersonality is right on the...
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    Question regarding multiclass: Shaman Spirit ability

    Okay, so I have a group of fellow players who have all selected strikers as characters. In order to fill the gap of both Leader/Healer and Defender/Tank, I'm thinking of creating a bard with the Spirit Talker multiclass feat. Here's what I'm thinking: A Cunning Bard, that makes a strong...
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