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Ahhh, so this is going to be something of a prequel and not actually retcon Kaz or anything that came before? If that is the case then I am a bit more optimistic about this project and will likely end up getting it. If it was going to be one big retcon-fest of the masterful work of Knaak then I...

I remember when WotC statted up Santa one year on the D&D website, good times. This is fine, I remember Gleemax, now that was a s***show. Mod edit for language. ~Umbran

This is fair enough, although I wasn't necessarily saying pure perfect balance (insert Thanos meme) within the system itself specifically, but rather extreme balance comparatively speaking within the entire tabletop RPG realm.

It's almost uncanny how similar PF2 feels to 4E, which I find very ironic given the reason Pathfinder exists in the first place. Although they managed to make 4E in a way that didn't also slaughter most of the D&D sacred cows, but I just find it boring. They went the path of extreme balance but...

I am not stating that D&D 5E is not the 800 lb gorilla, that is just logical common sense. Tis rather simple my ursine friend, I am stating that more people have left WotC and 5E behind than the tiny .02% pittance that Scott Christian tried to claim, between the OGL fiasco, the Pinkertons...

Where are you looking, if you traverse only 5E heavy spaces you will engage in confirmation bias. Go to RPG.net, go to r/rpg, go to Tabletop Simulator, go onto Foundry. Also my FLGS has a good number of non-5E games, and just as large of shelf space for non-D&D RPGs as they do for 5E. And in...

You have no way of accurately ascertaining this.

This is a rather myopic viewpoint, I suggest expanding your horizons. There is a vast RPG world out there that is not 5E, or even 5E adjacent.

In this I was actually speaking regarding irl. As far as new posts go, well there's not really much more to discuss in that realm, and these are people who left 5E specific behind, so it wouldn't surprise be as many of those who are not fond have just left. And its not every one, but after...

I have encountered a fair number of people still bigmad over the OGL saga, I am not overly surprised to see takes like above pop up.

If I remember correctly from my days on Candlekeep, novels count, and The Ghost King (among others) was published in 2009.

There's also the Greenwood clause, if WotC doesn't publish at least one physical Forgotten Realms book per year, the IP rights to Forgotten Realms reverts to Ed Greenwood (its the entire reason why the book Ed Greenwood Presents Elminsters Forgotten Realms exists). Just like Sony and Spider-Man...

I look at it in a similar vein as going to the Alamo Drafthouse to watch a movie, phones being completely banned within the theaters is an enhancing part of the experience.

Holy crap, Green Ronin lives. I feel like they fell off the face of the earth.

Right on, tablet would be fine, I just personally find trying to play on a 7 1/2 x 3 1/2 inch phone to be untenable, which is what I was referring to. It's funny though, this conversation doesn't really touch on that its not terribly uncommon for tables/DM's to have a "no phone out at the...

There are definitely cool ways to play D&D that are not entirely analogue, Foundry is a really good experience. But playing at a table using only a phone as your character sheet and books reference is annoying af, I've had to do it before, it sucks, give me books and a character sheet over that...

Lol, fair enough good sir. Paizo wouldnt have done it, but I would still love to see my ideal 5E alternate, with is essentially 5E mixed with 2E. Classical spellcasting, more traditional numbers/bonuses to hit, and sleeping for the night only restores a bit of HP.

All of those I would say were going down the same path "in a way that didn't slaughter all the D&D sacred cows", especially the last two. But ultimately, I didn't want a new take on 4E, I wanted a better 5E, just as PF1 was a better 3.5. But I have also come to realize that strict balance is...

I want to like it, but it just went too 4E for me. I will give them credit, they did it in a way that didn't slaughter all the D&D sacred cows the way 4E did, but I still cant help but feel that vibe from it.

I gave Fantasy Flight Star Wars two different tries that totaled a fair number of months, before finally just accepting, this ain't my jam, and happily went back to Saga Edition as my favored SW system.