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It's not really that strange. When you look at the time period D&D was coming into its own in the 70's and 80's a lot of metal music had very similar themes to D&D. I just got finished reading The Elfish Gene by Mark Barrowcliffe and as a teenager right at that time he felt that heavy metal...

It is not unusual for companies to develop multiple avenues for their marketing. Look at Geico or McDonald's commercials, they have different ones that appeal to different demographics. I wouldn't be suprised if D&D had different marketing strategies involving web videos, magazine ads or...

I think it is easier than that. Depending on context you can create situations where Player 1 is wrong, Player 2 is wrong, neither are wrong and both are wrong, with the information we have on hand. I do think that with what we do know about this situation my opinion is that this particular...

When I first started going to science fiction conventions I would estimate the % of women in attendance would be around 10-20% max (this was the early to mid 80's). The last 2 years I have been vending at some Anime conventions, as well as general sci-fi (like DragonCon or I-Con) and there is...

Wow, Fiend Folio animated series!

And how many of your spirited debates have ended that way? :cool:

You are asking for an objective, universal standard for social situations and interpersonal relationships, and it just doesn't exist. As I was saying in the last page you cannot account for all situations without knowing the context, the people involved, etc. There are too many unknowns here...

To be fair, Player A (and when did it become Players A & B instead of 1 & 2? I need a scorecard!) is not mistaken in trying something new, even without consulting Player B. Sometimes really innovative and fun ideas come from off the cuff, unrehearsed attempts. The mistake was, as posited in...

I agree that Player A should stop once Player B states they are uncomfortable, and I am certainly not portraying A as a victim. I just believe, "I am uncomfortable" is not an absolute, universal Get Out of Jail Free card without context. I was replying to the notion that 100% of the time...

They all turned 18?

You really think that statement is an absolute with no context whatsoever? There are no situations you can think of where the person saying "I'm not comfortable" might be overreacting, overly sensitive, unrealistic or out of touch? Such as, off the top of my head, people who might be...

Which is why many of us have acknowledged that there is not enough information presented to come to an absolute determination of who is right and who is wrong. We don't know if Player 1 is a creepy lech or if Player 2 is just spineless and prissy. We don't know if the DM is an Irish Eskimo...

Depending on how my day is going just interacting with certain people and them walking away alive constitutes me doing them a favor. Then again, even in the best of moods I am a fairly misanthropic person overall.

Ultimately it comes down to subjective opinions on what is considered reasonable to get offended by. And like art and pornography, it is hard to describe, easy to tell when it is happening. So if I was playing a halfling and my friend was playing a half-ogre and he kept berating my character...

This brought a weird corollary in my mind between Player 1 trying to convince Player 2 to role-play romance and other, romantically involved discussions that might occur in real life: Player 1: Cmon, try it, you might like it. Player 2: I don't know, it doesn't seem like fun. Player 1: I'll...

To be fair, un-asked for is not always unwanted. If a player hands in a player background, and I see that with some tweaks I can use some elements to help further the campaign and, hopefully, all the players' enjoyment. Without revealing the reasons (as that would give away plot lines) I...

What little we know of this specific scenario indicates it wasn't part of the campaign setting, but something wholly initiated by Player 1, so outside the scope of the DM, and nothing that could have been prepared for beforehand. The examples you mention are all things the DM can prepare...

And yet nowhere near as far as some Luke & Leia slash fic out there, but anyways... If the DM is intent on screwing with you, he will do so, regardless of whether you give him openings in your character background or not. If a player creates a character background of the man with no name, dead...

There seems to be quite a bit of conflict between players and DMs on this issue. I guess I can't speak for all DMs but isn't the main reason they would want to meddle in character backgrounds is to help enhance the campaign and make it a more fun experience for all involved?

But it isn't a completely internal matter for PC 1 the moment he tries to role-play it out with PC 2. And we don't know if this is a part of PC 1's background or not, it could have been a spur of the moment idea he had to spice up the game a little. We also don't know how this side story deals...