1-HD monsters used as PCs


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diaglo said:
pixie, nixie, brownie, grig, sprite, kobold, orc, goblin... hobgoblins were 1+1 HD in earlier editions but i'll include them here too, gnome, dwarf, elf, halfling, nilbog, dervish, nomad, bandit, buccaneer, pirate, half-elf, half-orc

skeleton
giant rat and other animals

i'd be willing to give a shot at the fey and evil humanoids you mentioned. "1+whatever" is really just 1-HD with extra hp, so anything that had that is a-OK of course.

i'll have to say "no" on "dervish, nomad, bandit, buccaneer, pirate" as those were humans anyway, and gnome, dwarf, elf, halfling, half-elf and half-orc are already in the PHB. no undead or animals as PCs for me. :p

nilbog? as a PC? as a DM, i'd rather allow a flumph. ;)

Voadam said:
From Into the Blue

Trench elves, Orcam, Otterfolk, Turtlefolk, Coral Scavengers (not sure thats the exact name).

from the MM

Aquatic elves, wood elves, gray elves, wild elves, forest gnomes, deep gnomes, deep dwarves, duergar, mountain dwarves, drow,

energy drained gnolls and lizardfolk ;)

i'm going to have to not use things from d20 books, because the writer guidelines pretty specifically state that Dragon won't be taking things from d20 sources.

as to the variant PC races... yeah, maybe. :) energy drained, heh...

rowport said:
Boz-

I am not sure about HD off the top of my head, but allow me to vote my total support of the article concept!! I already love your creature conversions, and honestly, every race article I read in Dragon makes me think of a new character I would like to play with it..!

:D

awesome! then i think you'll love whatever it is i put together... and i'd love to see something i wrote in print. ;)

Voadam said:
Planetouched aasimar and tielfling

also good, and there's a wealth of planescape information to make use of...

spidertrag said:
sounds like a fun project---give me enough 'leeway time' & I'll do some artwork fer 'em

thanks! :) i think Dragon uses their own artists for the articles, but i can submit any drawings that someone does to give them an artistic reference.

Remathilis said:
Rakasta, Tortle

i don't know about the tortle, but IIRC the rakasta have 3-HD. not that i couldn't just make them a bit weaker...

Kyrail said:
Kobolds are 1 HD, no con bonus so average out at 4 hp.

right, i forgot they upped the kobold to 1-HD... :p
 

thinking of a few more...

Fremlin! (heheh, who would play it except as a joke, maybe a good April issue entry)
Anuchu from an old issue of Dragon
Grung from Greyhawk Adventures / MC5 (or maybe with the grippli we have enough frog-men already)
 

I don't know if there is a copyright issue with them, but the Xvart ... I loved the Xvart ... 1e fiend folio ... blue, over sized forhead, tuftty beards.
 

i haven't forgotten them. hmm, how many HD were they? if they're 1-HD, they've just been bumped to the top of my list, or at least close to it. ;) they have appeared in 3E, but in a very obscure place; one of the Living Greyhawk Journals, IIRC.
 

BOZ said:
i haven't forgotten them. hmm, how many HD were they? if they're 1-HD, they've just been bumped to the top of my list, or at least close to it. ;) they have appeared in 3E, but in a very obscure place; one of the Living Greyhawk Journals, IIRC.

In 1e Xvarts were weaker than Kobolds, so in 3e maybe 1 HD with a con penalty? And remember, in Greyhawk they have their own god (at least I think they do).
 
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BOZ said:
i'm going to have to not use things from d20 books, because the writer guidelines pretty specifically state that Dragon won't be taking things from d20 sources.

I didn't realize you were going to write it for Dragon, I thought you were just going to use that as a model to do it and post it yourself somewhere.

If you did an eberron or MMIII monster race that might be more topically attractive to them right now, but since I don't own either I couldn't suggest any.
 

i dont recall ever reading an in depth Article about Xvarts, but Raxivort, Lord of Xvartkind has a paragraph in the Living Greyhawk Gazeteer (and also had an article in Dragon)
 

Voadam said:
I didn't realize you were going to write it for Dragon, I thought you were just going to use that as a model to do it and post it yourself somewhere.

BOZ said:
BOZ said:
Given that grippli and (next month) lupins have been featured in the “Winning Races” column of Dragon, I was thinking of writing up such a column using already existing D&D monster races, and wondering what else is out there.

i think the problem was that i said "writing up such a column" instead of "writing up such an article for the column" like i meant. :)

Voadam said:
If you did an eberron or MMIII monster race that might be more topically attractive to them right now, but since I don't own either I couldn't suggest any.

don't have them yet either. :) may not have them for awhile.
 

my good friend Shade would like to add the giff from Spelljammer, and the Phanaton from mystara. :) also the urd (aka flying kobolds); though they have 2-HD it wouldn't kill them to knock 'em down to 1. ;)
 

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