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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Gundark" data-source="post: 4028105" data-attributes="member: 6148">A couple of things.Your example was a pretty basic NPC, sure just copying from a book doesn't take that long. Trying going outside that scripted example. Mind flayer Cleric for example. You want something different with stats, you have to work them up with a point system or roll em. Now you don't have to take the monster feats the basic creature comes with in the MM, you wanna select some different ones. So go to your various splat books and start looking....oh what book was that feat in?...and so on. Skills aren’t too bad, but you can reset those and choose different skills from scratch. Now check for prestige classes...do you have the pre-req? No? Now which feat do you need to swap out to be able to be able to take the Prc? Now on to magic items...okay +2 mace a little boring? How about a +1 flaming vicious longsword… okay how much does that cost to craft?...look in the DMG….check to see if it’s within the gold piece limit that the creature of that type should have. Equip other stuff. Now one to spells….pull out all the splat books start searching…find the spells that fit within your concept….now what book was that spell in? (spell compendium does help loads with this, but even it was outdated with the next book)Now do this with the follow crap going on.Wife: Honey can you do (insert task here) for me?Kid 1: Daddddyyyyy!!!! Where is my ballet suit?Kid 2 : DAAAADDDDDD play cars with me?Kid 1: DAAAAAADDDD Kid 2 hit me!!!!Wife: Have you done (insert task here) yet?Kid 2: Daaaaaaddddd I'm hungryKid 1: Daadddddy I have to go to the bathroom.Wife: Will you stop playing around and get the kids ready for (insert activity here)...and have you done (insert activity here) yet?Wash, rinse, and repeat…So now you have 1 NPC done. Now you need to finish the 20 others a few out traps and maps, plots and the like. 15 minutes or a 3.5 NPC? Maybe...if you just do only what you have to….but don’t go too far off of course.Now you might argue that if I have to do all the above stuff then I’m being silly. That I don’t have to do steps A, B, or C.Well my argument would be that the game should be flexible enough to accommodate both play styles ( the minimalist approach and the non-minimalist approach). If it can’t then it a flaw in the game deisgn</blockquote>

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