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<blockquote data-quote="Cap'n Kobold" data-source="post: 8987300" data-attributes="member: 6802951">Knowing why the players in your groups would react with such unreasoning hate against someone that they play alongside might suggest solutions to such social disfunctions. Does the DM have a history of deliberately and unjustifiably messing with the players so they are already predisposed to such unpleasant reactions?This is just such a foreign situation that I don't feel comfortable suggesting ways to resolve this, but on the other hand, it is a vastly more important issue than a minor gripe about a proposed set of rules not yet started on the feedback process.&nbsp;You evidently know enough about these &quot;black box&quot; properties to make such a bombastic and disparaging post about a system that uses them.I, however, do not, and therefore cannot in good faith comment on the weapon table at such a level.I can merely point out things that are visible on the table at the moment, such as Rapiers not having the Light property, so the Dex-based PC may not be able to dual-wield them as easily etc.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Cap'n Kobold, post: 8987300, member: 6802951"] Knowing [B]why [/B]the players in your groups would react with such unreasoning hate against someone that they play alongside might suggest solutions to such social disfunctions. Does the DM have a history of deliberately and unjustifiably messing with the players so they are already predisposed to such unpleasant reactions? This is just such a foreign situation that I don't feel comfortable suggesting ways to resolve this, but on the other hand, it is a vastly more important issue than a minor gripe about a proposed set of rules not yet started on the feedback process. You evidently know enough about these "black box" properties to make such a bombastic and disparaging post about a system that uses them. I, however, do not, and therefore cannot in good faith comment on the weapon table at such a level. I can merely point out things that are visible on the table at the moment, such as Rapiers not having the Light property, so the Dex-based PC may not be able to dual-wield them as easily etc. [/QUOTE]

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